Deep Night (2024)

Is the storyline worth watching..

At first as soon as I saw the the noisy irritating actors being loud and acting ridiculously stupid which shows up in a lot of BLs. If a series is full of drama its very off putting. The bl series was watchable and I did enjoy some of the scenes. The 4 male Leads played their parts very well and were very easy on the eye. I find Thai males are extremely good looking. There were a few hiccups like the delay between verbal conversations which gave the idea they had forgot their lines. I think they need to drop the scene where one falls and lands on top of the other nearly kissing and then mortified it actually happened. It's been done that many times its
boring. I enjoy the drunk scenes because I enjoy men kissing. Don't ask me why but I do. I've shocked myself.
It is I think Asian men (Korean.. Chinese.. Thai...) they look after themselves.. Dress stylish and have so many talents to their name. I did enjoy the series. The male leads were charismatic.. They jelled.. and l just love BLS.
I haven't watched anything western for at least 2years.
Sending love from the UK... ❤️

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So, about that throuple...

I'm not going to dive into the show as a whole, plenty of people have already done that. Instead, I want to talk about the throuple in particular, in case anyone is debating to watch the show because of it.

First of all, I want to say that I applaud the show for actually including something that isn't your standard monogamous relationship. Throuples are a real thing, and they are in desperate need of representation. This show is a first step in a long journey, and I'm very glad of it. I've seen my fair share of Thai BLs at this point, and I've never seen this done before, so props to Deep Night for trying (No, I'm not counting Unforgotten Night because that was basically just a threesome without any build up or follow up, so let's not talk about that trash fire of a show).

That being said, I don't think the throuple in this show was done very well. There were interesting ideas, but the execution just wasn't it. Granted, they were the side characters of an 8 episode show, so it's not like there really was much room to explore this relationship to begin with. I think that was the first mistake. If they were going to tackle this right, the show needed to be longer with more room for development of this romance.

Let's dive into the different dynamics of these three guys, shall we?

So, first you have Seiji, who is basically the focal point. He's been best friends with Ken since they were kids and Ken has a major crush on Seiji. I think Seiji is also supposed to have feelings for Ken, but I honestly couldn't tell until he agreed to the whole throuple idea - but I think that's just because the actor was doing a poor job at depicting any semblance of chemistry. Which was part of the downfall, but anyway... So, Seiji and Ken are best friends and everything's great until Japan shows up. Seiji and Japan have a strong case of insta-love - meaning that they like each other for no discernible reason at all right from the get-go. However, Seiji plays hard to get (Assumably because he has feelings for Ken too, but I only know that now in hindsight. While watching the show, I was confused why he didn't just go for Japan, but again, bad acting paired with unclear writing). With Japan coming into the picture, Ken suddenly decides that it's now or never, and the two of them begin to compete for Seiji's love. Which ultimately results in Seiji kissing Japan, thusly making his choice, and them beginning to date. Ken is heartbroken and walking around all sad and dejected. Japan is feeling guilty over the whole thing and Seiji feels bad about it all too. Again, I assumed Seiji was feeling bad because he hurt his best friend, not because he actually likes Ken, but I digress. Japan talks about feeling guilty, leading to his friend joking about how they could always have a threesome. Japan then fantasies about said threesome which came completely out of the blue. And funnily enough, in his imagination, both other guys are basically focused entirely on him, rather than Japan and Ken focusing on Seiji, who's the one they both have feelings for. This left me confused once again, because I assume this was the writers' attempt at showing that Japan kinda has the hots for Ken or likes him or something, but it was done so poorly that it just left me feeling very wtf-ish. Anyway, after his little fantasy, Japan proposes to Seiji and Ken that Seiji could date them both. Which he definitely should've discussed with Seiji first, before mentioning anything to Ken but oh well... Japan says that Seiji having two boyfriends means double the care and double the happiness (It would also mean double the issues, but I won't ruin their fun). Ken agrees to this, and Seiji - with all the enthusiasm and emotion of a depressed piece of toast - does too. Alas, the throuple is formed. They have a group hug, and a few cute montage scenes. The end. No kissing, not actual threesome, nada. Just a lot of unanswered questions and frustrations.

Basically, during that scene of Japan proposing the throuple idea, we were led to believe that it's going to be both him and Ken dating Seiji. There is no talking about Japan and Ken also being romantically involved. Which was the biggest point of confusion for me, because of his threesome fantasy and because in one of the final scenes, Japan and Seiji both offer Ken some food - a nudge to a past scene where it was Ken and Japan fighting over whose food Seiji picks, a very unsubtle allegory for having him choose one of the two. So, maybe over time Japan and Ken developed a romantic bond too? Or maybe they didn't. I guess we'll never know. We'll never know at what point Seiji started to like Ken either. They had some moments, but it always seemed like Ken was the only one interested out of the two. Again, a mix of bad acting and bad writing I assume...

None of this is great, but it's not the worst thing I've ever seen. The biggest problem is how frustrating it all is, because this could've been SO good. They had all the ingredients, but somehow managed to bake it into something that is confusing at best and nonsensical at worst. Now, allow me to tell you how I think the entire thing should've gone.

Have Seiji and Ken be childhood friends. That was all well and good. So was Ken being secretly in love with Seiji. None of that needs to change (other than swapping the actor of Seiji because that guy had no chemistry with either of his romantic partners and no emotional range). Then, Japan comes into the picture. But instead of him being completely new to Seiji's life, have them know each other from the start. Maybe they've been friends for a while, but Japan went to study abroad and now he's back and they reunite. That way, it won't feel as insta-lovey, because they already have a bond. So, Japan comes back into Seiji's life after a while. They both have changed, grown, and matured. They catch up, notice how the other has changed, and they begin to fall for those new sides of each other. Ken realises that Seiji is spending more time with Japan and starts worrying. Things get tense when Seiji brings Japan home for dinner and the three of them have a meal. Seiji goes to the bathroom and Japan and Ken basically tell each other they're in love with him. Thus, the competition for Seiji's heart begins. Seiji is kinda enjoying this, because he obviously likes Japan and seeing him fight for him is something he finds cute But also, seeing Ken be this serious about winning him over is kinda stirring something within Seiji. Something that wasn't there before.
While competing for Seiji's love, Ken and Japan somehow get forced to spend more time together. Maybe when they go on their little getaway trip with their friends, they fight over who gets to share a room with Seiji. Eventually, their friends get fed up and put them in a room together while Seiji rooms with someone else. During that time, Ken and Japan get to know each other better, and would you believe, they somehow start realising the other isn't so bad. In fact, they start finding each other kind of cute and suddenly... What is that?... Oh, they start falling for each other too! Of course, they don't know that about the other person, so it's angsty and a lot of silent pining. Ken realises that now, he wants both Japan and Seiji to be happy, so he backs out willingly and gives them his blessing to be together. So, they kiss and are now dating.
But something feels off. They get all weird as soon as Ken is around which leads the two to have a talk. Seiji admits that despite being head over heels for Japan, he also has feelings for Ken. In what is the plot twist of the century for Seiji, Japan admits to also having feelings for Ken. Suddenly, things start clicking in Seiji's head and we get a slide show of moments between Japan and Ken that Seiji hadn't really noticed before, and he blurts out "I think he likes you too!" And thus, they decide why all the heavy hearts if there's a simple solution to the issue. They sit down Ken and Seiji is basically like "I like you. Japan likes you. I know you like me. And I know you well enough to know you like Japan too. So... What are we doing? We should all just be together." They have their little group hug and then they make things awkward when they want to kiss but aren't sure who should go first and all that jazz. It's cute and embarrassing and eventually, they get the hang of it. Throw in that threesome scene if you must. Have a cute montage of them bonding and being all happy together. Then add a special episode where they figure out their different dynamics and boundaries and all. And so, they live happily ever after. (It would be even greater if they explored the difficulties a throuple brings as well, but I don't trust these writers to handle that well, so I think it's best not to go there at all...)

If they would've done it this way, I would've easily rated this an 8 or a 9. However, with the clunky writing and the poor acting/chemistry, this storyline is only a 6. And even that is kind of generous, but I gotta praise the attempt at least. I think out of everyone, the guys playing Japan and Ken had better chemistry than either of them did with Seiji's actor, which wasn't really helping the narrative... Maybe if Seiji had better chemistry with Ken, things would've been a little less confusing, but I guess casting attractive people over actors with actual skills is a growing issue...

Despite its flaws, would I still suggest you watch this? Absolutely. Not because it's great, but because if people are rooting for this throuple, there's a greater likelihood of us seeing more throuple storylines in the future. Hopefully ones with better writing and chemistry. And one day, we'll get an actually great one. I'll be here, waiting.

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Comfort zone story with insane amount of kiss scenes .

I am mesmerized by this series. My first thought after watching: The amount of kiss scenes in this series is INSANE!! I am not complaining.

The most I love about this series is that:
- it has perfect story without too much overhelming drama
- reactions are reasonable
- characters are reasonable
- parents are supportive and reasonable
- development of the characters

Characters:
- Khem is so trying to be great boyfriend. He goes through a lot to understand and support Wela. He is so real to overcome his jealosy, which is reasonable, to support Wela in his job. I like how there is no need to add extra drama, break up because of something. Just pure development of the relationship.
- Seiji-Ken-Japan: They have very unexpected ending for me and I really love it! Now I want to watch more about three people in relationship, thanks a lot :D. Please give them side story, I am really curious.
- Freya is such a great parent, I adore her!

This series will be my comfort zone when I am too much overhelmed with the negative drama. Then I will come here and let me relax.

Please give S-K-J their own story series, thank you!!

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The bare bones of a good show

There's the foundation of a genuinely good story in here somewhere, but unfortunately you have to dig through a lot of meaningless-at-best, annoying-at-worst filler to get to it.
But let's focus on the positives first. This show genuinely has a lot going for it, the cinematography is good, the pole and aerial silk performances are surprisingly great, and most of the characters are genuinely likeable, realistically flawed human beings.
My personal favourite being Wela, who honestly could have been milestone for the genre on top of being incredibly charming, if only the script had been, well... better.
There are also middle aged lesbians in a thriving relationship as well as polyamory representation which we love to see. Yes, the latter could have been handled a bit more smoothly and I think that plot line would have benefited from more of a romantic buildup between Pan and Ken as well, rather than just between Seji and the other two individually, but all in all it still works surprisingly well and I am hopeful that this casual inclusion will open the door for more series and films to showcase healthy, loving polyamorous relationships.
Finally, and arguably most importantly, the show focuses on sex work and sex worker's daily lives which is an incredibly mis- and under-represented group of people, so I was understandably excited for this story.

Unfortunately, however, this is where the series really crashes and burns.
It does treat its characters with the respect they deserve and even tries to address certain topics like social and systemic discrimination of sex workers, or the fact that sex work is a paying job like any other which pays the bills and puts food on the table (which is quite an important point to highlight seeing as, statistically speaking, quite a high percentage of Thai sex workers actively use their income to support family in their home towns). But any deeper exploration of these topics is hindered by bad writing, a meandering, unfocused plot, and So. Much. Product. Placement.
There is a certain point in the series at which I thought the story was going to address the vicious cycle of repeat criminalization which allows corrupt government forces to profit off the sex work industry endlessly while publicly condemning it, but no. To my great disappointment it's just another opportunity for the almost offensively cartoonish female villain to do her thing.
The series also spends way too much time on people making out with one another and while yes, the portrayals of physical intimacy are very good and yes, I understand this can be a draw for some viewers, these scenes take up vital screen time that could have been much better spent on more important things like fleshing out the plot and weaving more cohesive storylines.
Personally I also really dislike the ending of Wela's character arc, it feels completely contrary to his previous actions and kind of devalues most of the show's core messages.

All in all, this show tries, in its own convoluted way, to offer a nuanced and respectful portrayal of sex work and shine a light on the serious issues facing people working in that industry, and for that it is to be commended.
It does, however, mostly fail to achieve what it sets out to do, making it quite difficult for me to wholeheartedly recommend watching it.
Instead I would recommend doing your own research on the issues of sex work in Thailand and around the world before watching the show and forming your own opinion :)


P.S.:
If you don't know where to start you could, for example, read some articles published by EMPOWER, a Thai sex workers' advocacy group and non-profit, or by the NSWP, a global network of human rights organisations advocating for sex workers worldwide, which offer some highly educational material.
Hell, even just reading through the wikipedia entry on sex work in Thailand can offer some reasonably nuanced insights on the topic.
For any visual learners I recommend watching John Oliver's segment on sex work (it's available on youtube for free) - it does strike a fairly satirical tone and focuses mostly on America and other western countries but a lot of the points made are universally applicable and it covers a lot of ground in a relatively short time span, so I feel it could work well as an introduction to the topic.

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It was okay

There’s some good and bad qualities about the show but honestly I’m not even bothered. The main couple got me giggling and feeling all cheesy so I’m hooked *insert blush emoji*.
Genuinely, this show could have the trashiest plot, and I wouldn’t even care because of Wela and Khemthis *blushing emoji*.
I love Seji and Japan but I hate a love triangle (nothing personal for the character Ken).
Honestly I got bored often and felt like some storylines were unnecessary and lack luster.
Overall the drama was okay. It wasn’t terrible but not the best also.

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Is that all?

It's actually a fun ride, I quite like the journey following this series, I really enjoy the chemistry between the characters (especially the main couple who have been together from the start so there are lots of moments to enjoy, I'm a bit tired of the "confused phase" in BL lol) , the plot is also light and easy to follow, it's not long-winded (like some Thai BL where I dropped, usually because the long-windedness to lengthens the duration), but in my opinion overall it's just ordinary. There's no after taste. Not bad, but nothing special either.

In my opinion, the conclusion about the side couple, Japan-Seiji-Ken, is too late. I like it, but it's too late. And it's like, okay, that's it?

But overall I recommend it for people who are looking for something to watch while filling their time. 🤣

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surprisingly enjoyable with loveable characters :)

this series was surprisingly good but ofc it had its pros and cons.

for the cons, I wish there were fewer nc scenes and more scenes with kenseijijapan and freyameiji cause they could've been shown a lot more. like we could've explored the way older lesbians are in a relationship as well as how a polyamorous couple are together. great and james felt very last minute and rushed as well, could've added more scenes about their relationship and dynamic.

as for the pros, the music and cinematography in the show are so good! especially scenes in the nightclub while they're performing and whatnot. khem and wela have my entire heart, I love them so much which was surprising to me as at first, I had doubts about khem but he had so much character development which was amazing. I wanted to see more of their relationship without the nc scenes though. I love wela's character, so hardworking, passionate, and lovely (and adorable ofc). I also love seijijapan's dynamic, japan is such an adorable character. love the poly representation cause I'll take whatever rep we can get and also love older queer rep that shows how different older queers think compared to younger queers. love p'dai, she had an iconic personality matched with iconic outfits. I wish they didn't just use her as a comic relief character to give us more proper trans rep.

overall, it's not exactly a masterpiece, I would say there is something that feels missing from it. Nevertheless, it's a cute show to watch just for fun with cute and complex characters. the chemistry between the actors, especially between the two male leads, was amazing. definitely worth watching if you wanna just binge a cute lil gay show.

IM SUPER EXCITED FOR DEEP LOVE THOUGH HOPEFULLY IT COMES OUT SOON CANT WAIT!

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in da clurb, we all fam

This show came around in the end and I ended up really liking it. So I will rate it and then come back to review it. 8.4375 out of 10. So 8.5 out of 10. Now spoiler time!

Just got a stripper pole installed: I had work so I finished this six hours ago, but we are here now. Also, the poster shows all of our couples; I did not even realize that. "The plot that I skimmed through low-key looks interesting so I’m excited." It was pretty interesting; I just think that it didn't reach its full potential in the middle of it. I also started this over a month ago now. I recognized the actor who played Wela from Y-Destiny, which was an unneeded blast from the past lmao. Khemtid, I think his name is, was so fucking fine from the start, and the same with his mom. "I am a little confused, but I think I missed a part of the episode." This feeling didn't go away until the final two episodes. I think it is a good show; you just need to give it time and watch it spread out. It was pretty good; the whole thing with the hosts at a nightclub and dealing with the repercussions faced by society was an interesting take that is not talked about a lot. I think that they could have done the plot better because I was really confused about what was happening.

"I fuck heavy with the nerdy-smart guy being a host and technically a stripper for a nightclub." I wish that dramas did this dynamic more or something like it. I am a really big fan of the double life trope; it is just so fun. Also, I do not think hosts can have tattoos; I am actually going to look that up. Okay, I found one thing: hosts don't make a liveable wage. Maybe it is better in Thailand, but 30k to 50k a year is not good. Not in any life would that be worth it. Also, hosts aren't a really big thing outside of Japan and they usually don't allow tattoos on hosts. The more you know! I guess. "Mother is mothering." was the best subtitle I have ever seen. I also wished they did more with Khemtid and Japan's dynamic; it kind of dropped off after the first three episodes. "So are the host sex workers or what? I am confused. I really don't understand what a host is." I actually still do not know what a host is. "A host club is a place where female customers pay for the company of male hosts. Some say that women may visit host clubs because they want to be loved and taken care of or because they feel that Japanese men don't listen to women's problems. Others say that women may visit host clubs because they can get closer to hosts than they could to pop idols." Said Wikipedia and the Economist, the more you know. "It'd giving Romeo and Juliet." I still do not know what I meant by this. I liked this drama's focus on money and our society. How differently we treat people if it's unintentional was another interesting thing this drama talked about.

And then from episode 3 to now, I watched in 24 hours, because I couldn't remember why I stopped watching this. "This auction shit is all types of problematic, lol." This was one of the things I was so freaking confused about. Seiji was so fine and he actually looks like he would be a host (I mean that in a good way). "11 thousand dollars on alcohol is fucking crazy. Money is a funny thing. Just dropped 11 bands for one night with a guy you saw last night for free." I wish they developed the relationships a bit more; it's like they were trying to smash them all in one but forgot that they actually had to develop them all. "Having sex on the rules is so fucking meta, lol." This started me saying very meta, very manure. I wish they did more crazy shit like this.

"They love to make regular moments oddly sensual." I LOVE WHEN DRAMAS DO THIS. It is always so fucking fun. "There is so much happening but at the same time nothing." Also, their talking about relationships and boundaries was very real. "How wide is your boundary?" Is a good fucking line. "Do you only have the boundary with me?" Also, fire. This scene is lowkey deep as fuck. They need to have a conversation." I wish they talked about this more instead of just ending it with a kiss and pretending that everything was okay. I also wanted them to develop the club getting raided because that was such a good time for crazy villain eras, but instead, I was just fucking confused.

The worst episode because what the fuck. "Distance makes the heart grow fonder, I guess." They were a strip club but they did Ariel gymnastics instead and it was way more impressive. "His mom is so fine, a tear ran down my leg, dude, multiple for her sexy ass." I also wish they got Ken his much-needed villain-era wasted potential; instead, I was fucking confused and thinking about dropping the show.

"I am so confused, I want to like this show so bad but I am just too confused." I still don't know why that woman called the police on the club so many times I didn't understand that. "I wish they did more of them at university instead of this weird host club." They needed to alternate more for dramatic effect. "Ken is a bitch ass; I would kick his ass. He is so worried about Sejij; he isn't taking into account anybody's feelings, including Sejijs." Wasted potential with his villain era. "He and the guy with tattoos are fucking. WITHOUT A SHADOW OF DOUBT THEY ARE FUCKING. This seductive ass-back-rubbing scene, Y'ALL IS FUCKING. FUCK OUT MY FACE." The shower scene and this one, side mother fucking eye. The episodes from here on out got so much better.

Wela lying to his mom about being a host was the best development in this, I loved this. "Becoming an Ariel stripper is lowkey the dream lmao." Also, Wela and the school finding out was such a good plot and they did it so well. "People starting to look at you differently." People starting to notice you and point at you that would normally not bat an eye. Japan, Seiji, and Ken: "The way Sejiji protected Japan was so sweet. It didn't register what he said. No threesome please and thank you. WHO IS ON THE SOUNDTRACK? EAT THEM UP. NOT THE THREESOME SWEAR SWEAR. DUDE. FUCK OFF NO WAY. FUCK OUT OF MY FACE. HUH. FUCK OUT MY FACE WITH THIS SHIT. THIS A DREAM TOO, WHICH IS ALL TYPES OF PROBLEMATIC. THE BEAT IS CRAZY, THOUGH."

Friends we made along the way: I was very happy with the ending and gave it a 10 out of 10 because I think they did it really well. "This is all very impressive. The core strength is insane. Wela struggling because he fucked his leg up is peak, just keeping going. I did not know Khemtid was even going to perform. Wela looks very pretty in white. The teacher is bad as fuck." I was very amazed at everything that was happening and it was very beautiful. " Divorced parent core, they are both rich. I wish, dude. Okay, this show actually came around in the end with this friends we made along the way ass ending. Japan was like, I like Sejiji, you like Sejiji, and Sejiji likes us both, so why don't we just all date? SOLUTIONS!" Everyone was happy in the end and I liked the poly couple. Well, I am not poly myself; I think it was executed nicely and wasn't over the top and dramatic. Very meta, very manure. And it was a nice wrap-up to the show.

Would I recommend it? Yeah go for it; it had a lot of interesting takes on society and was actually pretty good at the end. Then again, do what you want; I don't care. Okay bye!

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Man on pole? Bring it on!

It was really good and it fell flat towards the end.

I love all the couples here. I wish there are more screentime for the supporting couples.

I'm not a fan of the nightclub business per se but I do really enjoy the performance by the hosts. I also love how there's BL shipping in the club, that part is really so funny

There are decent number of NCs, some are pretty good- I can feel that they want to eat each other up

The ending is pretty cool, I didn't expect they'd really go ahead with polygamy. I love how this show is pushing boundary in this sense. It's also giving us a different perspective of the host business

Although, I've a mixed feeling about this. While I'm supportive about showcasing their talent, I'm not sure if it's "right" to promote "accompanying clients" as a profession. After all, the clients do get touchy, it's not like they are having heart-to-heart talk. This is the only piece of the show that I'm not sure how to feel. But, at same time, this is just depiction of real life, and it's up to the viewers to make our own discretion

Overall, I enjoy the show- it's pretty wild and fun.

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Faltou profundidade...

a história tinha bom potencial e um plot que fugia ao padrão, mas toda narrativa foi tratada superficialmente, o desenvolvimento foi acelerado e os relacionamentos secundários mal explorados, o casal principal apesar do grande tempo de tela, não foi tão bem trabalhado, o tempo foi mal dividido o que resultou em relacionamentos corridos ou com pouco ou nenhum plano de fundo. Sobre o trisal, Japan que parecia o menos maduro e mais inocente, de repente tomou uma grande decisão, Seiji fez suas escolhas e o Ken realmente me tieou do serio com a atitude ruim em relacao ao xasal principal, mas foi entendivel. Fostaria mto de um maior desenvolvimento do James e Great

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