lunnn:

I think it becouse of the original languge and sub sometime change some minor detail.
you mentioned above you have read novel is story truly faithfull to the novel expect the faked death and  his friend death. 

I understand Mandarin though. lol, for historical dramas maybe like 70-80%….? Modern dramas maybe like 90-95%….

ah… yea. So the screenwriter did an amazing job. The broad answer is yes… BUT he did make a lot of changes although the main plot, characters were maintained. I don’t know how he managed this, coz I realised this is very difficult. Like for example, even the fake death. Although it was a big portion added, but it is still well aligned to the novel, similar tone/premise. Like it could be something Mao Ni wrote. One major difference I realised is the comedic bits. So the novel had almost no comedy/humour, this was entirely added by the screenwriter. I actually didn’t like the progression of the novel, I.e the 2nd half… I wonder how the TV adaptation will turn out….

 Anthony Tumiwa:

i also heard from comment in JOF S1, that in the novel, the grand princess also seduced the emperor, but fail.

that a new one i did't know that
maybe that's why she hates fan xian's mom

 Anthony Tumiwa:

i also heard from comment in JOF S1, that in the novel, the grand princess also seduced the emperor, but fail.

Yeap, it is true. she kinda….. lol, I don’t know. I like her character. And the actress they casted for the role is perfect. She is one of the rare female characters, complicated, ambitious, not a fan romance…. definitely a memorable personality. The novel fleshes this out in detail…. Ummm… so it is basically in line with wot she said in S1, don’t recall the exact episode. The part whereby she said she wanted to climb to the highest peak, just to see wot the scenery looks like… so seducing the Emperor is also because of this… 

 Anoif:

I understand Mandarin though. lol, for historical dramas maybe like 70-80%….? Modern dramas maybe like 90-95%….

ah… yea. So the screenwriter did an amazing job. The broad answer is yes… BUT he did make a lot of changes although the main plot, characters were maintained. I don’t know how he managed this, coz I realised this is very difficult. Like for example, even the fake death. Although it was a big portion added, but it is still well aligned to the novel, similar tone/premise. Like it could be something Mao Ni wrote. One major difference I realised is the comedic bits. So the novel had almost no comedy/humour, this was entirely added by the screenwriter. I actually didn’t like the progression of the novel, I.e the 2nd half… I wonder how the TV adaptation will turn out….

I did't watch much chinese drama but joy of life is outstanding. Now I can see why...

 lunnn:

I did't watch much chinese drama but joy of life is outstanding. Now I can see why...

Me too. It was one of the first few Cdramas I started watching like 3 yrs ago… I was hooked. Like I thought it was amazing. I probably only have about 10 dramas I gave a 10… and this was one of them. 

i rarely watch cdrama too lately (last 3-4 years), as they emphasize too much on romance / love story.
i think i am just too old or being an older generation  :(

 Anthony Tumiwa:

i rarely watch cdrama too lately (last 3-4 years), as they emphasize too much on romance / love story.
i think i am just too old or being an older generation  :(

Haha, for me it isn’t about the emphasis on romance. It’s more of like 70% of the time…. The plot progresses towards a weird direction. And it just ends up crashing and burning. Like mostly ending illogically or just like the edits are so bad that everything just becomes pretty nonsensical. 

Also, they still haven’t gotten the hang of modern dramas. So for modern dramas it’s worse…. Like 8-9 times outta 10 it just becomes weird. So their forte is in xianxia, xuanHuan, these are defo very romance heavy. And other historicals, like wuxia, political, investigation etc. so these usually are better… it only becomes weird like half the time. 🤣 a big factor is because they are fixated on maximising the number of episodes, I guess it makes sense economically/financially…. But not every plot/script is suited for 26-27 hrs of screen time.

 Anoif:

I don’t know wot they are and I don’t know if they ever explicitly stated this in the novel coz there are just way tooooo many chapters, only read selected chapters, didn’t like the novel as much as the series…

 BUT in the novel they did explicitly mention that first cousins weren’t allowed to get married during that period of time, against the law…. Think it was mentioned around chapter ~450…..

with me its also too long, since i read the entire novel, but yeah, the incest-y vibes that went all around , was eery. like the princes, the emperor, uff, they all kind wanted to sleep with the grand princess, and they were all weird about it, because it was like , were they weird about it, coz it was a taboo, and would created a public uproar, and public disgust by the population or were they all strangely weird about it, coz they were all somehow bloodrelated? 

i rather guess, since this is a chinese drama, the censorship will be heavy and all parts of that will be like glossed over?

i mean, in american TV, since games of thrones, incest vibes are practically like a condition or something for any new US show. modern or fantasy. i think. its long since i watched US TV.  öhh the only US TV show i was watching last year, was star trek: discovery.

You read the entire thing??? 747 chapters?? 😱😱😱 I salute you!! yea, this inbreeding thing is common in various cultures historically. Especially monarchies. And GoT has a historical setting.  

they still allowed it… lol albeit shrouded in ambiguity… 

at least there is one person who is loyal to grand princess without se* , power, or money, which is that 8th Dan archer (what is his name again)^^

🤣. So she jumped to his son, the cp 😂 

 Anthony Tumiwa:

at least there is one person who is loyal to grand princess without se* , power, or money, which is that 8th Dan archer (what is his name again)^^

Yan Xiao Yi!! He has quite a significant part in the novel, roughly similar to Yan Bing Yun I think. But he isn‘t on the cast list for S2 though…. 🤔

 Anoif:

You read the entire thing??? 747 chapters?? ??? I salute you!! yea, this inbreeding thing is common in various cultures historically. Especially monarchies. And GoT has a historical setting.  

they still allowed it… lol albeit shrouded in ambiguity… 

honestly, 770 chapters sounds long, but in reality, the chapters were just very short. so not big deal, i am sure, the game of thrones novels are like 10xlonger. 

true enough with monarchies, they sort of all wanted inbreeding to keep the power and money and gold, and so on, in the family.

 ender1979:

honestly, 770 chapters sounds long, but in reality, the chapters were just very short. so not big deal, i am sure, the game of thrones novels are like 10xlonger. 

true enough with monarchies, they sort of all wanted inbreeding to keep the power and money and gold, and so on, in the family.

No….. it was long. I was just reading it yesterday, and the day before etc… ok, let me go into a bit more on why my brain probably perceived it as “long”…. It was veryyyyyyy emotional, feelings, inner thoughts mixed in with political stuff in the 2nd half of the novel. The whole mesh up was just weird. I mean when it is political power struggle, the whole feelings and emotional thing just made it weird….. heavy, sombre…. And it just felt like “damns, wot on Earth am I reading…………….”  Just talk about strategy and ambition…. 

like I would have thought there’d be more about wuxia, I.e their martial arts skills, family stuff, maybe a bit more on how they make lots money etc. but like the 2nd half of the novel was…… ughhhh for me. 

i guess, we simply have to agree on disgree what constitutes as "long".  but maybe also my memory tricked me, its been 5 years, since i read the entire novel. i thought it wasnt that long, coz again, the chapters are rather very short. ok even if one put all the chapters together, 80 chapters might be perceived as long as well. lets agree on miles may vary. 

i did not have any expectations on it, or what genre it might be, so i did not expect any wuxia or martial art fighting. for me, it was pretty quick clear that is was well, not exactly nirvana in fire, but also not about martial art. but like with the setup, it was bound to be more intrigue and power struggles and the ultimate mistery, where is that damn temple, and why and who killed the mother of FX , and my ultimate question was always, will FX kill his father, once knowing , it was him, who allowed the murder of his mother? all that kind of struggle . 

the FX of the novel is not very likeable anyway, but the good thing is, he himself as a character , never denies that he is not a good person, so that was good enough for me. he was pragmatist, a hedonist, a narcist and he never denies or lies to himself, that he is a good person. alas, that was good.i like that he was no hypocrite.