Madoncdramas:
Yeah, am really getting bored of the repetitive ‘get together then break up‘ without communication trope.  Do ALL screen writers think this makes good drama??

Definetely it's selling, it touch the audiences.

 Madoncdramas:
There are some shows that have jaw dropping  clothes and accessories

What is the title?

 danny_ang:

Definetely it's selling, it touch the audiences.

What is the title?

You got me!  i watch mainly historical dramas and several have great jewelleries, clothes, porcelain and fans.

sorry Danny not to name one in particular 

Actually wanted to comment that Tang Dyansty has the most busy and exciting trade business, it’s the period that China used Silk Road  and by sea, to bring in lots of exotic goods from middle eastern country to China.

The design that shown in this drama and those designed by FL were actually quite unique. At list this production team did some research in this area.

I also quite like the Tang costume here, showing those wore by town folks and some richer merchants and less of those seen in Palace.

 Megumi-H:
Actually wanted to comment that Tang Dyansty has the most busy and exciting trade business, it’s the period that China used Silk Road  and by sea, to bring in lots of exotic goods from middle eastern country to China.

This thing that during Tang China significantly expanded foreign trade is actually a misconception, probably due to the general appraisal of foreign embassies and travelers of the time who left written reports (to the joy of later - usually Western - historians, who've just passed "a good word they've heard from these sources" and depicted Tang as a marvelous flourishing country cultivating arts and crafts, especially in its "Golden Age", a "Chinese Renaissance" etc,).
But, if we make an effort to be objective and use objective measures, this general opinion may change and we can see it for what it is: a myth. There's no doubt China was probably unrivaled world superpower for centuries if not a millenium (sporadic fragmentation periods apart) and this supremacy regarded the Tang period as well. The idea of widespread prosperity is common to any empire, even the short-lived Timurid empire was fueled and gained consensus (among hundreds of different tribes, ethnicities etc with different religions and tbh, the Silk Road functioned at its best under Tamerlane's domination of Central Asia, there were no local warlords to obstruct caravans or impose heavy taxes, no bandits... and if some other superpower, as it happened to the rising Ottoman empire, stood in his way, he would defeat its ruler, put him in a cage and make him watch how his wife /a tribute princess from a defeated and short lived Serbian empire/ serves at the dinner feast to his generals... completely nude. Later, he will also try to teach a lesson to the Ming, which blocked its exportation, but he died of an old age and infestation of old wounds when his military expedition reached the borders of Ming and this fact saved the Ming from his army which never lost one battle in 64 military campaigns)

The general prosperity of the Tang is also undisputable, the proof is the rise of the population: when Li family takes over Sui Dynasty, which unified (with difficulties) China after 4 centuries of infightings. 50 million of its inhabitants will increase to 80 ml after 3 centuries of rule. But the Song dynasty, which took over what we know as China, after the interval of "5 dynasties and 10 kindoms", doubled its population (counting the people overtaken by Liao) in just 2 centuries.

The reason for this increase in general wealth-being during Tang was very simple: it was due to the improvement of agriculture (especially, early and swift rice collecting and improvement of crop watering, similar improvement of the time was in Frankish empire, when Charlemagne or his father, edicted "the rest of crops" every 4 years with clover to nitrogenize the soil). The rise of population resulted from this (technologically agricultural) improvement. boosted the INTERNAL trade, not the international trade via Silk Road, which was blocked most of the time- Although Taizong (the one who killed his brothers) in early Tang. tried his best to secure the international trade as well, he failed in this endeavour. Everything after him in Tang (except Wu Zetian) objectively isn't even worth mentioning.
Tang actually only improved the relationship with Corea (with three reigns preceding Gogyuyeo) and Japan. But the sea trade with all other destinations was strictly through the intermediaries of Southeastern talassocracies.
The strenghth of Tang is simply a myth 

@AleksandraSucur, wow! thank you very much.  I learnt a lot today. I can see that you are studying this topic. This seems well researched.;)

It’s truly fascinating.  Thank you.

Thank you!❤️

 danny_ang:

Definetely it's selling, it touch the audiences.

What is the title?

I believe The Longest Day in Changán is well known for its authentic and lavish Tang dynasty sets and costumes. It was also made in the height of c-drama popularity when dramas had astoundingly large budgets. The Rise of the Phoenixes is also movie quality in terms of  actors, costumes and sets as Netflix invested in it so it was even live recorded and not over-dubbed.  I have heard also that Story of Yanxi Palace had amazing costumes and sets but I have yet to watch that one.

 PeachBlossomGoddess:
I have heard also that Story of Yanxi Palace had amazing costumes and sets but I have yet to watch that one.

Yes, but the setting was not in Tang, it was in Qing. I remember I've enjoyed all three dramas you've mentioned, but for some reason I've dropped The Rise of the Phoenixes towards the end, I suppose it went draggy at a certain point. Yanxi Palace is also a bit long but it was watchable for me to the end. Not all the actors were on the same level of performance, some dialogues weren't well written, but overall, that drama was certainly better than anything we've watched recently

 AleksandraSucur:

Yes, but the setting was not in Tang, it was in Qing. I remember I've enjoyed all three dramas you've mentioned, but for some reason I've dropped The Rise of the Phoenixes towards the end, I suppose it went draggy at a certain point. Yanxi Palace is also a bit long but it was watchable for me to the end. Not all the actors were on the same level of performance, some dialogues weren't well written, but overall, that drama was certainly better than anything we've watched recently

Indeed  Yanxi palace was Qing dynasty. I don't really like that dynasty so I haven't watched it.

 PeachBlossomGoddess:
Qing dynasty

indeed, Qing style is less attractive. Thinking about Tang-style drama, we've actually both seen a drama with gorgeous costume, I remember it was a mystery drama (but not Detective DI or Strange Tales, it was another one), I rembember in opening ep a beautiful lady in green and dark orange costume with huadian on forehead levigating above a lotus lake (it was an illusion) and the day after a person (a governor?) drowned in that lake, that drama had really beautiful costumes, but the cases weren't particularly engaging, so I don't remember its name. Many dramas may have good eastethics but lack in plot... so we simply forget them

 AleksandraSucur:
I rembember in opening ep a beautiful lady in green and dark orange costume with huadian on forehead levigating above a lotus lake (it was an illusion) and the day after a person (a governor?) drowned in that lake,

That sounds like the first case in Strange Tales of Tang Dynasty.

 PeachBlossomGoddess:

I believe The Longest Day in Changán is well known for its authentic and lavish Tang dynasty sets and costumes. It was also made in the height of c-drama popularity when dramas had astoundingly large budgets. The Rise of the Phoenixes is also movie quality in terms of  actors, costumes and sets as Netflix invested in it so it was even live recorded and not over-dubbed.  I have heard also that Story of Yanxi Palace had amazing costumes and sets but I have yet to watch that one.

I liked all three for very different reasons but in terms of production, I felt they did well in allowing the audience to experience the period they were set in  without being overwhelmed.

i thought Royal Nirvana was also good.

 Madoncdramas:

I liked all three for very different reasons but in terms of production, I felt they did well in allowing the audience to experience the period they were set in  without being overwhelmed.

i thought Royal Nirvana was also good.

Yes Royal Nirvana also had a big budget. Those heyday of dramas not caring how much they spend on sets and costumes are over for now sadly. So it’s hard to compare with dramas shot back in 2016 - 2019 when they were just throwing massive budgets at this stuff.  Nowadays even S+ dramas look cheap. 

 PeachBlossomGoddess:

That sounds like the first case in Strange Tales of Tang Dynasty.

In that case, my memory is jumbled. Strange Tales' cases were so good. I think I confused that scene from one in Wu Xin The Monster Killer S3. It was set in Tang but fantasy type and had some incredible dresses. The cases were boring and the plot was filled with illusions and monsters, so I can't recommend it, but the Tang aesthetic was present.
The Imperial Coroner was a good drama set in Tang, although I can't really remember the clothes