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I loved it! Best series in a long while. Highly recommend watching.
No it isn't a BL story, but there are some elements of BL, or more specifically growing up gay and being comfortable being gay in general. The overall story is relatable to real life issues and how people deal with their problems, either current ones, or issues they have carried throughout their lifetimes. I am closer to the 55 group than the 15 group, and I can see a lot of elements of my past and present life in this story. The Songpol/Paul story especially had some very familiar themes to things I have experienced, but the other people's issues were also very recognizable to me.Everything about this is great. The story, the acting, chemistry between characters, and more. I liked there were few if any of the tired tropes like the episode 11 argument/breakup, the white truck of death, the ever lame "I'm gay only for you", and the many others we have seen over and over again.
My only real criticism is they should have cut Jaya's song by about 30 seconds in each episode and put that few minutes of time toward a better ending for San and Prim. They overdo the singing in many episodes, and it gets a bit repetitive. I get she is a singer, and that is all she does, but to leave San and Prim with a much shorter block of time in the last episode is a bit of an odd decision.
The only part that wasn't completely believable was that the younger set of actors were 15, but I will forgive the casting director for that. I am sure it would be harder to cast, to get good actors, and with some of the themes they explored it might be better to have a bit older actors. I am glad they stuck with the 55:15 age theme, I can't imagine it would be as good with a 55:25 or 55:30 as the age difference. So just use your imagination they are really 15, and it will all be fine.
I really hope there is a sequel or special of some type, maybe a "one year later" follow-up to see if this second chance made any difference long term? I could even see a new set of characters with their own issues in a second season, but it sure will be hard to beat this cast and their wonderful chemistry.
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The plot of this is ridiculous, but not in a bad way.
The fabricated plot here is that Tay tries to set up Jenny on a date with his friends. This is just a very light hearted and fun series with lots of joking around between Tay and Jenny as well as the guests. Tay and Jenny are hilarious, and have great rapport. There is no romance or drama or much of anything like that, so move on if you are looking for that.The whole series is pretty much a commercial for Est cola, and some Thai restaurants. There are some very corny ads for Est cola in various places throughout the shows, but they are not anything like a Western TV commercial, and not obtrusive. The restaurants and food are interesting to see. The food looks yummy, I would love to be able to try some of these restaurants someday.
Overall I would say it is a great filler while you are waiting for a longer or more serious series to become available. I would compare it to TayNew Meal Date, or OffGun's Mommy Taste series if you have watched those.
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I knew this series was coming from the press releases made back when the series originally aired...
But I didn't know what to expect.I agree with many of the comments here. It is not really a terrific story on its own. In fact, I am not sure if there is really even a story here, it is more a series of clips. I thought it was just OK at best because of *how* it was made into this special series.
If you insert these parts into Why RU series, they fit fine and make sense. I actually had to read the comments here to figure out where these special episodes fit into the main storyline. But overall, I am a bit underwhelmed at how these were edited or presented or something.
Tommy and Jimmy are good actors, and they seem to like each other in real life. There was chemistry in Why RU. There isn't a whole lot of chemistry here, again because of where this all fits within the timeline of the main series. I don't think it is fair to blame them for world events or poor editing or whatever. So I will basically ignore that aspect of things in this series.
Too bad they couldn't have gone back and re-edited the original series as a "director cut" or something with these scenes added. I would have probably re-watched the whole series. Instead, we are left with a bunch of fluff, which is fine, but it would have got a lot better rating from me, and likely from others, if these episodes were put into context.
Someone smarter than me can probably recommend the right order to do this, but I wonder what would happen if you watched Why RU and this series co-mingled? Do some DIY "editing", and watch things in a certain "wrong" order like people do with Star Wars, Marvel, and other similar movie franchises.
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The actors were decent, and I thought pretty realistic how they would have acted if this had been real life. None of this is high dollar Hollywood stuff, but it isn't a high school film project either. There are very minor sound and picture quality issues, (I.E. this isn't 4K with Dolby surround sound) but that doesn't really distract from the story. There are some little things that date this movie like the cell phones, and magazines, but ignore that and focus on the story itself. Just remember when this was filmed to put the last couple items into perspective.
For some reason the Youtube version of this movie was age restricted. There were a couple of what I would call MAYBE PG-13 scenes in this. There was no nudity, no swearing, no blood and gore, or even any serious violence. Not sure what that age restriction was about, but it isn't a dirty movie by any means. There is much worse stuff at 8 PM on broadcast TV. The English captions of the version I watched were very well written, and easy to understand which isn't always the case in foreign films of this type.
I say give this a shot if you are on the fence. Looking at the statistics, most people gave this between a 7 and 8. I think that is a pretty fair assessment.
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I will start off by saying I LOVE the theme song, and most of the music throughout the series. They did a great job here. In general, the production quality was great, video and audio quality were very good. The english translation was not as strong as some series I have watched, there were a lot of blank [] (no translation) and [don't know that] sprinkled throughout the series.
The story was very much about the Cho/Yihwa relationship. It was nice to see it develop, but it sure took a long time and lots of twists and turns to get there. Korn and Knock get a small secondary role here, and they deserved more. Thank goodness they get their chance in the other series. This could be said about all the couples on here, but Korn/Knock especially need to learn how to communicate! So many misunderstandings and hurt feelings over nothing. Of course, that is the whole point of a drama and it would be boring without it. Like someone else said, it should have been called "Terrible Romance" due to everything that happened here. Poor Cho, how can one person have so much happen to him in one TV series?
I would have liked to see a bit more about the other (secondary) couple's relationships. I especially wanted to know more background about Pae and Martin and some of the other characters. Some plot points like the relationship between the teachers wasn't really ever clarified as far as I am concerned. Were the teachers a couple? Martin is wealthy? Nobody ever visited Tanguy's apartment? And what about Chinook? So many unanswered questions!
The mystery happenings throughout the series are all (of course) neatly wrapped up at the end, with a pretty big plot twist. I knew who was NOT causing these strange things throughout the series, but I didn't know who WAS until the end. I could have done without the creepy happenings, and just make the person be more straightforward with their feelings. Not like that particular topic would have been taboo in this circle of friends. Again, there wouldn't have been a series without the drama, but it could have been handled with less (literal) craziness.
I would like to see a fourth part to this series with the secondary couples of this show getting a more major role, and Korn/Knock and Cho/Yihwa having a secondary part. Part 4 would wrap up some loose endings in both this, and Together With Me.
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This is a love story, but there are many sad parts to go along with the love. In fact, the whole movie is a bit bittersweet, but that was OK. What I didn't like was the gory parts in the end. I guess it was the point of the movie, and is very dramatic about how they go about expressing it. This movie is definitely what I would call R rated, or at least meant for a mature audience as the saying goes. Don't eat dinner when watching this, and don't watch if you have a weak stomach.
The cinematic performance and directing was fine. I can find almost no faults in that. The music was appropriate, and gave feeling to the story. The story was a little hard to follow at the end, but I guess it makes sense if you think about it more as a broader theme rather than the exact actions going on.
This movie just wasn't my thing, I prefer a little more positive or happy spin in my shows and movies, and this was a bit depressing or even disturbing depending upon how you look at it. That is the reason for my low overall rating, and rewatch rating. This probably would probably win awards at a film festival, but sorry to say, I won't watch this again.
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I almost gave up on this one...
But it turned out to be OK in the end. The first probably 3-4 episodes were a bit weird, confusing, and at the same time sort of boring and bland.After the first few episodes, the real story of Win and Wit came out. That was a really touching story, and they should have made a story just from that. I think this would have been a good BL story all on its own.
The Covid lockdown plot was different but it will surely not age well. This whole story borrows a lot from a variety of vampire, ghost, and horror movies, and there is even a touch of The Green Mile thrown in for good measure. It wasn't really a scary movie, and they might have done better to try and be less "Ooohhh scary!" thing and gone more for a friendly haunting or spirt thing rather than the evil monster thing. Maybe a bit more like "He's Coming to Me" as long as they were borrowing plotlines. But I get why this was done to some extent.
There were a few twists and turns, but it was all fairly predictable low budget stuff. Hopefully Karma gets Kaeo at some point, she was not as innocent as appears, I can't believe Wit and Win are so accepting of her. Like it was "accessory to murder, oh well we love you anyway". And it seems like they left it a bit open-ended, like they are planning for a second season which is unnecessary. They could have shortened some things a bit, spent a LOT less time on ending credits, and flashbacks, and added a bit more content in other areas to bring closure to this story. I still don't fully get why Auntie Ann hated Wit so much to do what she did, and yet was so nice to Wit and Win's face.
Most of the actors played their parts fine, but I wondered about casting a bit. I almost think Wit and Win should have had the other's role. Tha was supposed to be Wit's brother but looked a LOT more like Win. I though that the Met girl was a bit annoying, not sure if it was just the character, or what.
So it was an OK filler, and I am glad I watched to the end instead of dropping this. But it could have been so much better.
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Ok series with a few flaws
Mame always writes the most clichΓ© and toxic stories, this is no different. I went into it thinking I would not like it because I often just roll my eyes at the stories Mame creates. That said, I enjoyed the series for the most part.The guys are cute, and I thought they did a good job acting. I think Fort and Peat saved this series. Their chemistry is great, they act like a real couple. Oh and props to the actress who played Meena as well. That girl, despite being so young, does an excellent job. I think she has a bright future in acting.
There were a couple things that let this series down in my opinion:
* The girls story seemed like mostly filler, and didn't add much value to the series. Their parts either needed to have more depth to expand and explore their relationship, or less depth so they are truly supporting characters. The dynamic here is strange, it almost feels like harassment at times.
* I question the Dad's storyline and how that played out. Without spoiling too much, I can't see how Dad was allowed to get to this point without someone calling the police or involving the authorities in some way. Beyond that, the resolution to his storyline was odd. Like they just threaten to take away the money, and he never bothers anyone again? Why not do that 10 years ago?
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Enjoyable and easy to watch, but with a few issues
Hopefully this doesn't need spoiler tags, but you may want to read this after watching the last episode.I really enjoyed the whole cast in this series, they did a great job. The characters were also very fun and easy to watch.
The story itself was interesting enough, and I would call it unique. No engineers, no guys in high school, etc. I think the story needed a bit more development, or maybe they needed more episodes to fill in some blanks. I think that having so many characters and couples in so few episodes made things feel rushed or incomplete at times and is the root of the issues this series has.
In the last episode, it seemed so hurried and chaotic after the 11th episode where the interns graduated from the production company, then suddenly they are mentors/adults. There was no arc to the story between those two points.
OffGun (Ryan and Jane) seem more like a side couple here, I would call this series an ensemble cast. I think it should have been billed that way, but I get why GMM use the big name stars to draw attention to a series. I also am not sure I would call this a BL, or even a Ryan and Jane romance, I don't think it ever gets to that level. I think Ryan and Jane characters are more of a bromance or crush or something like that. This is total speculation, but maybe Off or Gun are tired of being in BL series and want to tone it down a bit? Not sure, but they barely did more than hold hands throughout the series.
That ending was... unfulfilling. I am not sure what else I can say about it that sums it up for me. OffGun needed more closure here, unless we are getting a second season where they explore their relationship further. I guess I don't hate the time skip as much as some others here, but it was unnecessary and lazy. It was like they had "X" hours to film, and once we hit that "wrap it up" and onto the next series.
I get that some couples would stay together through something like this time skip, but Ryan and Jane had only agreed to date before this, I don't think they had even had an official date yet. I am not sure how deep of a couple bond they would have before Jane left, or how likely it would be they would wait for each other for this long.
Overall it was good, but there were a few things I think they could have changed to make it go from an OK but forgettable series to a great one that would make it onto a "Best Of" list.
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I wish I wouldn't have listened to the poor reviews and watched this sooner!
This must fall into the love it or hate it category or something. I really liked this a lot, and I don't understand the poor ratings.I am so glad to have something that is cute and easy to watch between the surplus of vampires, time travel, murders, and prostitutes in many recent series. I would encourage anyone that is on the fence to go ahead and watch this. I put it off for so long because of the negativity, and I shouldn't have waited. This doesn't deserve the hatred that many on here are giving it.
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As far as the story goes, Pun is a warm hearted and shy boy who has a massive crush on the actor Ashi, who was once kind to Pun. Pun doesn't know how to approach his crush, and is quite awkward at times dealing with his feelings. Ashi on the other hand doesn't know how to love, and is cold at times, he doesn't even remember the kind act he did for Pun. It is that whole opposites attract thing.
Some of the people within this couple's circle are very supportive and want to help these two to become a couple. Others try to derail the couple and introduce chaos into the relationship for fame and money, or selfish reasons. Grandma is the wise one, and Pun should have listened to her speech about forgiveness, but ignores that advice until the end.
I loved the acting here, it is a very different role for Ja and First from what I remember in their other series. The chemistry is terrific. Both First and Ja are quite handsome and cute. I thought the side couple of Bosston ( Mingmueang)and Jo (Namning) were also cute, and they helped the main couple quite a bit. I also don't understand the comments about how creepy and stalker-ish Mueang is, the Doc seems to just be playing hard to get here, and I think them chasing each other (figuratively speaking) is interesting.
I must have been one of the few who thought the Lakorn setting and the TV crew within this series (a series within a series?) was a fun element, and totally ridiculous, but also seems very realistic in how over the top they are. It was just different enough to not be yet another school series, and gave an opportunity to see a variety of character types, some of whom are over the top crazy.
Overall, this was enjoyable to watch. I binged this whole series over a weekend, I just couldn't stop watching.
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It wasn't the worst thing I have watched this year, but far from the best.
I will be a bit contrary to many here and say I kinda liked this series, it was a light and quick watch. It wasn't too cuddly or overly sexual, and it wasn't dark, abusive, or heavy. It feels very much like a 2017 era BL series, and that is OK by me if done right. However, this series suffers very badly from the subtitles, and maybe from a few flaws in the story, and/or maybe the directing and editing.Lets start with the subtitles. They messed up pretty much every pronoun. They instead of me, you instead of I, we instead of me, they didn't get even one right in this series. Then they couldn't decide on the spelling of the names of the characters, which often changed throughout the series and even within the same episode. Calling the girl "necklace" instead of Soi, which I think is the literal 1:1 translation of that name, but not the intended outcome of translation. It makes it so hard to watch, and you have to re-translate things in your head while you are watching and listening. By the second or third episode, I had caught on to their mistakes, and could fix it in my head to mostly make sense.
If you like tropes, then OH BOY this story is πππ‘π‘ππ with them. The sick mother. A group of engineering students with the grumpy and cold older head student. The "I'm straight, and only gay for you" thing. Work-study trips to help poor village children. Misunderstandings galore. The next to last episode curse where the leads won't talk to each other and don't know why they are arguing. The only thing missing is the white truck of death.
The story is a bit thin in places, and I think they dwelled too long on certain elements like how Pluem is a cold hearted jerk and his weird fascination with a girl who clearly is over the whole relationship. I probably will never understand why Pluem's friends didn't sit down with him back in High School 15 relationships ago and say "hey buddy, you know that you are being a jackass, you might want to tone it down". I won't disagree with anyone who says the story could have been better written and edited in general. But it wasn't probably ever meant to be a complex story filled with twists and turns, it was probably supposed to be a basic π§π’πππͺπ―π¨ πͺπ― ππ°π·π¦ story.
I said this in the comment section, but what type of crazy person wears high-heels and a skirt on a jungle work expedition? Girl was trying too hard to be a temptress, and play the helpless victim to get her a man. I would have told that chick to march her own ass up that mountain trail. How did they even let her on the bus dressed that way?
I wish they would have put some of the stuff that the actors said in the behind the scenes into the storyline. Like Pluem's parents, for example. That would have filled in some big gaps in the storyline, and explained the actions of the character. Instead, we learn about it after the series ended.
Continuity and editing is pretty poor at times, for example the dog that Pluem brings home is a big white fluffy Malamute or Chow, and the puppy is a tan Pomeranian.
Parts of the ending was a bit odd as well, we get some potential side couple love confessions, but then cut right to behind the scenes with no apparent resolution to those confessions. Even a simple acceptance/rejection of the proposal would have worked, or maybe that did happen but the subtitles messed it up?
I think the acting was mostly good. The twins are hot as well as π’π₯π°π³π’π£ππ¦ and Suea is cute as a button and funny. Most of these are beginner actors, or in their first series, and they did good considering that. I liked the contrast between the soft and almost feminine Prod compared to the barking and rough Pluem. That said, Kimmon sure doesn't like intimacy. To me, he almost looks uncomfortable at times, and I suspect part of why the girls got a love scene while the leads did not.
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This story is a mess, but well acted.
There are definitely spoilers below.These are my initial thoughts immediately after watching. I really wanted to like this, and by all rights I should have. The car and racing theme along with BL is right up my alley and an area of life I am familiar with. However for me it was one of those series you watch jut to finish, rather than keeping my undivided interest. It wasn't great, nor terrible, but something in-between. Normally if I like something, I can finish a series like this in 3-4 days. This series dragged on for a couple weeks, and I was even home sick for a couple of those days.
This story is a mess of themes, none of which seem to be explored in very much depth, nor are some of them explained how or why. There is BL, supernatural powers, action, child trafficking, racing, mystery, sex encounters, and more. The supernatural powers bit is quite odd, they only use or mention them a couple times throughout the series, but apparently those powers make Babe a winning racer? And Tony the child trafficker somehow finds and sells these special children somehow? And Tony never is suspected of selling all these adopted children? There isn't a child welfare system in Thailand to know where these kids are? Then there was some mention of experimental drugs or something helping these powers?
The actors were great, they brought this 3.0 story up to something watchable. This was the first major production for some of these actors, and you really couldn't tell. They must have had some good coaching and lots of practice, besides being good actors. I hope to see them in future series.
The characters, in my opinion, were all very one-dimensional or maybe said another way they didn't have much depth. Either way, some of the characters were just there more so then they added to the storyline. North and Sonic were a good example of this, they were apparently amateur racers, but they never raced even once. Dean was sort of the same, there but didn't add much to the story. His character could have been eliminated and the plot point done a different way.
There were weird things like Alan supposedly being so much older than Jeff, when they are only two years apart in real life. The "kid" and "uncle" thing was a bit cringe. You could tell that they were both about the same age. And how about Way having supernatural powers and nobody including his only and close friend Babe knew that fact for years upon years? Add that to the pile of odd things in this series. Also, I know this is BL series, but never in my life have I seen so many gay guys and gay couples in car racing and especially not on one team. Not trying to come across as bigoted here, quite the opposite, I am gay myself. I am not saying it couldn't happen, but it sure isn't realistic from my life experiences. Of course if that idea was deleted then we wouldn't have a BL series like this.
I am not sure what would have helped this series, but maybe cutting it down a couple characters would be a good start. Maybe shorten it by a couple episodes. There are so many series that need the extra time, but this feels like it drags. I think they also need to focus on a couple of main themes instead of throwing everything at the wall and seeing what sticks.
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Great series, I enjoyed it a lot
Definite spoilers in the second section below...I liked this drama a lot, I binge watched this when I don't often do so. First off the actors did a great job. I think the casting was spot-on. I hope to see more of these actors in the future. I could *almost* believe they were 9th grade students. I liked that Seeiw could openly declare he was gay, that is an unusual event in a BL series. It was nice that Seeiw's friends accepted him that much, I think they were secretly shipping Seeiw and Cake.
I also think the story was great, up until the last two episodes. The last two episodes were totally unnecessary to the overall plot, and I don't think they added anything. I agree with the message of not smoking and use of alcohol, but it seemed to not fit in with the rest of the story. There are a few ads for iQIYI, they were not too obtrusive, but a bit of a LOL considering streaming services like this didn't exist back in this era.
Onto the spoiler-y part.
How can Cake be so clueless to his feelings or at the very least ignore them when they are so strong? He seemed to care deeply about Seeiw, was deeply jealous of Seeiw spending time with other guys (even back in grade 9) and even tried a couple times to say what was on his mind, but never followed through. Even after going to America, and being much older, he couldn't figure out he had feelings that were deeper than just "friends" with Seeiw? As shy as Seeiw was, I understand why he couldn't talk to Cake about his romantic feelings.
And how did nobody sit down with Cake and have a talk with him? Surely his mother, his friends, or someone would have said at some point "are you sure you are just friends with Seeiw?". Tah in particular had a couple deep talks with Cake in the later episodes (when Cake was having a meltdown after the play), and Tah could have said "hey buddy, it is pretty obvious you like Seeiw, and Seeiw is openly gay, maybe you two should have a honest talk". Same thing when Cake was having computer troubles, and saw Kung at the university. Kung sorta hinted about Seeiw liking Cake, but he could have said something more about how Seeiw only loved Cake, and if he was interested in who Seeiw was (or was not) dating, maybe the two friends *who slept in the same bed every night* should MAYBE talk to each other.
It was pretty inevitable that Cake was going to have a breakdown at some point over all his pent up feelings. You could see that coming a mile away, as did his friends and even Seeiw saw the change in Cake's behavior. Too bad it took being drunk for Cake to actually say the words, much of this could have been avoided if he would have just talked to his best friend at some point.
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Lots of potential but was blemished by subtitle issues
I think most of the other reviews are pretty accurate. There is so much to like and dislike here.For the good: The guys were cute, and the actors seemed to have done a decent job. There were a few hot scenes with some of the couples. There seemed to have been some care taken to make the story realistic, and to have many types of LGBT representation. Nothing was overacted or over the top, and no offensive stereotypes of LGBT people. There were very few of the tired tropes, nobody tripping and falling, no truck of death, and not even a breakup episode with a stupid misunderstanding in episode 11.
For the OK: The camera work was fine, and the picture quality was decent. The sound had a few issues here and there, but not bad overall. I have seen these same quality issues on occasion even with the major studios like GMM, so this wasn't all that different. The story was a bit confusing and slow at first, but got better about halfway through. I would say this is a mid-tier quality show, it isn't Tale of a Thousand Stars or SOTUS, but way better than Ghost Runner or even What the Duck. There were some themes we have seen before in other series, although not a rip-off of other series, some parts are vaguely familiar.
Now onto the problem: This story was almost completely ruined by the abysmal subtitles. Almost nothing made sense. In almost every episode, there were long periods where there were no captions. The grammar and pronouns were atrocious throughout, which of itself isn't always bad, but combined with other issues just exacerbated things. There was at least one episode the captions were completely out of time with the spoken word, and they ran the captions for the previous scene right through the introduction. It is like when you use Google to translate English to Thai back to English, it all just comes out a tiny bit wrong. This could have been a decent show if they would have properly captioned it. It is so disappointing that this otherwise OK series was wrecked by something that should have been easy to mitigate.
Also of note, why change the intro to the series for the last episode? That is a bit odd in my opinion. Also North's mother changing her mind about everything was a bit sudden to be believable. I get why she was angry (ex husband issues), but literally from one scene to the next she was all the sudden accepting of everything, a complete reversal of her previous hateful personality. She even seemed to encourage North and Ongsah at the end to have sex.
I would be interested to see if this production company can fix their technical issues, and improve things in their next series. I would love to see these actors again in a different setting. There is lots of potential there.
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I liked it and would like to see the series completed.
It feels a lot like a Youtube series than a studio production, not that there is anything wrong with that. If you don't compare this to large budget and major studio productions, it is fine. This is a low budget drama with beginning actors and actresses, or maybe more accurately the first professional acting job for for most of them. I thought the acting was actually pretty good for them not being seasoned actors and actresses.I liked the basic idea of the two characters that were buddies all through school (college?), and how they sorta had a crush on each other, or just felt comfortable together. They even worked together and did everything as a couple. But they weren't a couple, and couldn't talk about it or express their true feelings. Then you throw into the mix a new guy co-worker who pursues one of the pair, and chaos ensues. It was an interesting story in general, but not much gets resolved in the end. (But might be in a sequel?) I think the story was a lot more realistic and relatable than the crap we get from Mame that is wildly popular for some reason.
There are definitely some issues with various parts of this series from the music being louder than the dialogue at times, to some aspects of the story being a bit confusing. That being said, I have occasionally seen as bad or worse from the major studios. Even GMM and the other large players have put out some pretty bad stuff, not everything is SOTUS or Tale of a Thousand Stars. I think many people are way too harsh on their ratings of this series. The same people who are disparaging this series also seem to be very critical of other series, like if it isn't perfect in every way they can't get over it. So maybe take some of these comments with a grain of salt.
This was pretty short and you don't have to invest a lot of time to watch it. It doesn't drag on for dozens of episodes which is a nice change. You can binge watch this in an afternoon, and maybe it is best done that way instead of spreading it across days or weeks. I liked it and would like to see the series completed. I also would like to see more from this studio to see if they can grow and fix the few things they got wrong.
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