Standard College BL
Not much to recommend this. No real chemistry or affection between the leads. I don't see them together at all - no idea why Jin agreed to be Bbomb's boyfriend, and Bbomb is not a good boyfriend, jealous and withdrawing, so why stay? I don't get it.Bbomb has a longstanding crush on Jin, but doesn't act on it, and then becomes arrogant that Jin will like him when he does start to pursue him. Then after Jin agrees, Bbomb is insecure about every friend and interaction Jin has. Which I guess makes sense since there's no real reason that Jin likes Bbomb, he just sort of accepted being his boyfriend.
The friends had potential but were completely wasted. They have no lives of their own, are just there to serve the leads. I mean they are literally in the plot just to get the leads together.
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Very Good Series!
This was a good series! Like with other newly Thai series in my personal opinion the series is too short. Lately BL series have been getting shorter and shorter it’s like there just making them faster to make money rather than expanding the series and making it better. Until We Meet Again had a story line that wasn’t rushed and it expanded much more bringing the story to its full potential. Therefore making it much more enjoyable and not rushed! They should have touched more on the relationship with Kaem. That too was just rushed they should’ve expanded that relationship much more. It left you wanting more of their relationship, but it was just rushed and nothing till the end when it was just to late. Personally there could be an Awesome BL series based on Kaem’s relationship.I hope in the future we see more BL series like UWMA and 2 Moons series like this that don’t rush.
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Urgh.... cry baby....
Urgh this series was the absolute worse... it was so frustrating that annoying that literally wanted slap the main lead so many times.The story line wasn't bad, but the acting was terrible and there was absolutely chemistry between the main leads.
Th other characters felt like they were just there to support them, they had no purpose.
This drama was really the worst, only watch if you need to take out your frustration cuz this is what this series does.
The characters were frustrating
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This is truly awful. In the most boring way.
I'll start with the good. The music is good. The cast is pretty good. Noh will probably seem lifeless to you, but I think that's bad directing, not bad acting. I think he's capable of displays of restrained and subtle emotion, but you only get to see it once or twice. The main couple are undoubtedly cute together, and they have strong chemistry. Bbomb has a really, really hot body and he's very sexy. Jin is adorable and his smile is really something.The bad: There is no plot. None at all. The characters merely run in circles the entire series, and it's hard to convey how completely unexaggerated that is. Do you know how many times people get injured playing football? I don't - I lost count. (That's slightly exaggerated - but Jin does get injured more than once, and it serves exactly the same plot function both times.)
There is only one source of drama in this series, and it's jealousy. Both characters are endlessly jealous over the other so much as being in the same room as anyone else - girls, boys, houseplants, they're jealous of everything. It's always a misunderstanding, and the characters never, ever discuss it - they just retreat somewhere, sulk, and refuse to answer the phone or communicate in any way. With no exaggeration, the number of times this happens is so great, often several times in a single episode, that I can't tell you how many - really, I'm not kidding.
Bbomb is so psychotically jealous that Jin should really run for his life, because he's going to end up strangled to death in a fit of rage. Although the chances are 50/50 he'll be able to escape if Bbomb is currently recovering from a football injury.
There are a lot of supporting characters in this, and none of them serve any purpose whatsoever. If you're here to see Kaownah & Turbo, prepare for disappointment. There are hints that Turbo likes Kaownah, but it never goes anywhere. At all. And Kaowah is surprisingly terrrible in this - I think again, very strange directing. Ball, played by the actor who is the fujoshi's brother in Oxygen, appears two or three times and one of the support characters is smitten by him (and Ball is almost fatally cute), but nothing happens. At all. He's not even in the finale. Boss, who played Kao in Oxygen is in this a lot more than I was expecting, and he's wonderful in a completely opposite role (reserved, manly, aristocratic - I would love to see him play a villain), but it's not enough. The guy who plays That in Manner of Death (the hot guy with the motorbike) does nothing significant.
I'd say about 75% of the run time is characters eating and drinking, or traveling to a from eating and drinking. The other 25% is people sulking in jealousy and implausible lack of communication.
All the friends have a master plan to get Jin & Bbomb together, but it makes absolutely no sense - it's totally incoherent and illogical, and appears to be more or less randomly sabotaging the two endlessly until... they get together?
Jin is so wracked by internalized homophobia that not only will he not allow Bbomb to tell anyone they're dating, he won't even let Bbomb hug him, even when they're alone in private - until the final episode, when he does something so totally outrageous and out of character your mouth will hit the floor - let's just say it involves involuntary outing, and if the person in question didn't already know, it would have been the worst thing any character has ever done in a BL (other than villains).
There is not one tired trope that isn't stuffed into this. If one of the main characters hugs someone, the other will show up at just that moment and misunderstand. If someone has a drop of alcohol, vomit and a piggyback ride will result. Playing football? Guess what happens? It often feels like a checklist they need to get through each ep.
Bbomb's house in Chiang Mai is so gigantic that it doesn't fit in a wide frame shot - seriously, it's not a mansion, maybe not even a palace, but an entire city-complex. If I were to guess, I'd say at least 2,000 sq m. And two people live there. With no domestic help. What is the point of this absurdity?
Despite the main couple's chemistry, they never really get anywhere, and the ending of 2gether is an orgy of pornographic debauchery compared to how this ends. There's a stuffed animal involved. And nobody f@#$s it, which would have been more interesting and satisfying than what happens.
When you finish the first episode, you'll say "This guy is too negative - it's not THAT bad." When you finish the last episode, you'll say "why didn't this a$$hole warn me it was this bad?" because it's much worse than I can convey in words.
Given the above, a four rating may seem high, but the quality of the production is good (other than the directing and writing), and the actors did as well as anyone could with this awful, miserable script, and I can at least say you're never without eye candy, so I think a four is reasonable. I can't imagine ever rewatching even one scene in this. I don't think there was even a gratuitous shower scene to go back to.
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The series I thought I'll hate!
This series is not that talk about in the BL world, but I hope it will because this series has so much potential to be great.Story - firstly I really thought the story flow of it is so questionable but while the story deepens, the whole makes really sense especially for the lead of the show, they give so much chemistry I don't know but I really love them so much!!!
Acting - superb, some scripts are not the good but overall acting is so great and kudos to all the team! all of them are so lovable
Music - OMG!!!! the music of the show is one of the greatest OST of BL I know! they really give everything especially the lyrics!
Overall - I really hope this series will be known by a wide audience around the world! this is so underrated and hopefully will be like by others too.
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Who needs enemies tbh
Spoilers Below because I am enraged and IDGAFHonestly this had potential, but once we started to see the most toxic friends in any drama I've watched really start ruining the entire relationship I just got disappointed and then enraged.
Like the leads would've been a couple a year earlier if that cousin hadn't stuck her nose in. Then after traumatising Jin, she proceeds to make a club dedicated to ruining their relationship before it even started. I'm not sure how their friends convinced themselves they were helping. They drugged Bbomb, lied every time they spoke to either lead, and manipulated them both constantly. Like every interaction they had was calculated for months. They even got Mark to pretend to be interested in Jin FOR WHY? All it did was erode the trust that was building between them. Jin is a known doormat and people pleaser, so they all know he's going to do whatever that dude asks, because he's his senior and pushy as hell. They engineer conflict and cause so much emotional trauma. IF THEY JUST LEFT THEM THE HELL ALONE everything would've been okay. If the so called friends hadn't filled them with so much mistrust and fear, Jin would've felt comfortable so much sooner.
I feel bad for the actor for Song at this point. The whole way through I was trying to shake my hatred of his face after TharnType, but he did himself no favours here, only cemented himself further as a secondary character who can't be trusted. Only reason I trusted him in Love Stage was because I didn't recognise him at first.
This was a solid 6/7 out of 10 for the first few episodes but my rage at the friends knocked it right down to a generous 4. I didn't even want to keep watching by ep8 because I hated them all so much, but I am compelled to finish all dramas.
WHY did everyone constantly talk about what a player Jin was? I saw absolutely no evidence of this. When he was single he flirted with folks, but when in a relationship he was totally loyal (just a slow communicator, not a bad one, he was honest and clear, even when he was confused). If everybody wasn't calling him trash every few seconds things would've gone smoothly.
Also WHO PUT THE CONDOM IN BBOMBS POCKET YOU ABSOLUTE ASSHOLES?!
Good: The two leads if you isolate them from everyone else. The music was fine.
Bad: Every other person on screen. Toxic and dangerous as hell. Unfortunately I can't set a score of zero for rewatch value, so it gets a 1. I didn't even want to finish it, never mind watch it again.
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At first it was refreshing and interesting. But as the story continued, there are repetitions of the same thing. Like, the main couple getting injured. Also, their relationship is kinda confusing, rushed and toxic. The usual "getting jealous of other guys just because he's dating you" thing. And Bomb guilt tripping Jin because of it, but Jin forgiving Bomb everytime. Then Bomb being toxic again. So, everything is just repeating, till the last episode is here. Even Jin crying. He's such a soft baby face guy, it low-key hurts when he cries. And Bomb just gotta make him cry for no reason at all. I felt like I was just feeling bad for Jin throughout the whole thing.There's almost nothing showed in the drama, about the side couples. I was expecting the side couples to be together but they didn't bring them together. It wasn't even clear what the side couples were exactly. At the end, I was only looking forward to the side couples because I had given up on the main. But when I thought I was gonna get something on them, I just saw that it's the last episode.
Their friends were trying too hard for their relationship to happen, which is weird and of course not good in my opinion. Because they went to far with their actions, which was pretty repulsive for me.
I don't really find a good thing about this drama, now that I thought about it through while writing a review. Except for the parents part, even though Jin and Bomb's moms had a very short part, they delivered better than usual parents. It was pretty refreshing.
The few first episodes were a bit more tolerable than the rest of the series.
This is all just my opinion. I know people who lost their interest in this as well. But I decided to stay till the end and see what happens. I feel like they couldn't put the novel into series properly.
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Some good and some bad
Again, another low to mid-budget series with some familiar faces and some new ones that is slightly above the mediocre GMMTV BL series we've seen lately ("Tonhon Chonlatee" and "Fish Upon the Sky") and is waaay above the disasters that other series have been ("Y-Destiny", "Close Friend" or "Love by Chance Season 2") but because of the low budget and somewhat inexperienced actors, it falls well below the quality standards we've seen from other shows ("Tale of 1,000 Stars", "I Told Sunset About You", "Gameboys", and "Gaya Sa Pelikula").Some thoughts that have some good and some bad:
1. Jom and Noh are the lead roles playing the characters of Jin and Bbomb and their chemistry is nice but Noh is making his debut and comes from Lao so it feels like he needs a bit more time to fully adapt to Thai TV and deliver some of his lines with a bit more emotion and less stiffness. Jom apparently was a guest in "Tonhon Chonlatee" but the series was so mediocre I really don't remember him being there, he also needs a bit more acting lessons to improve, but overall the lead couple was a bit dull sometimes but charming, so there is room for improvement.
2. The support roles had ups and downs with Kaownah and Turbo exciting everybody with their roles thinking they were going to be a secondary couple, and while they implicitly are, nothing really develops between them with Kaownah (playing Song) is basically having the role of a comedian during the show and Turbo (playing Jay) is the nerdy and quiet type. Both have been officially selected as the leads for the upcoming Thai version of the Japanese manga "Love Stage" who was then brought as anime and then as a Japanese movie as well. We'll see how well they can portray the characters in that one.
3. Some of the familiar faces continue with Bhu playing Jack in the totally opposite role of his character in "Manner of Death". Now we see a playful Bhu trying to conquer cute girls instead of dodging bullets and being a gangster, so that's a nice change for us to see his acting skills. And then we get the two Bosses, Boss Thawatchanin (who can be seen in the recently finished "Hidden Love") playing Tong and Boss Thanabat (who we saw in "Oxygen") as Mark, both are seniors and don't have many lines but Boss Thanabat becomes a potential obstacle in the Jin-Bbomb relationship. The rest of the cast has some funny moments, sadly, most are wasted with very boring subplots and lack of interesting things to do other than play matchmaker with Jin-Bbomb, play soccer/basketball, play some music, and study.
4. This leads me to the writing/directing. It feels like the story needed twists/plots or something but they could not really find one. The series was announced as having 12 episodes but it ended after 10 so it was misinformed or they had some issues with the story or sponsors and had to shorten the series. However, I think it reached its limit, so 10 episodes were ok as Jin and Bbomb really did the same thing most episodes... plenty of misunderstandings, some tears, and lots of arguing then they will make up with corny phrases or acting cute only to repeat the same cycle in the next episode. Their relationship had one step forward, two steps back, then 3 forward, 2 back, etc., it was never a steady progression of them developing their feelings because Bbomb liked Jin from the very beginning and Jin had issues all the time and couldn't decide.
5. This takes me back to the writing and support actors. From watching episode 10, I get that Aim knew Bbomb liked Jin but as she says at some point, Bbomb didn't stop her from liking Jin, didn't pursue Jin and didn't stop Jin from developing feelings for Aim so it was only after they broke up when he said something to Jin. However, it seemed like everyone was just there to plot how to bring Jin and Bbomb together orchestrated by Aim, Jin's friends, Bbomb's friends and even Mark who just pretended to like Jin to make Bbomb jealous. I felt a bit confused trying to understand who was involved in this matchmaking process and what roles each character played in it. And because when someone tried something, it ended up with Jin and Bbomb fighting again... so while I appreciate the change of some of the typical Thai BL clichés and storylines, it wasn't executed in the best possible way.
6. Bbomb's mother had a nice moment on episode 10, when she acts all cold towards Jin only for her to prank him when he confesses he is dating her son because she already knew that. She then has a nice moment with Jin, accepting their relationship and letting both know that Bbomb is old and mature enough to make his own decisions and as long as he is happy, she is happy as well. That was a nice moment of parental support some BLs lack but it didn't fit with the overall feel of the story because no parents were shown until this episode.
In the end, the series had some good and some bad moments and if there is a season 2, plenty needs to be improved... but there is hope for Nitiman in case the series comes back.
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UNDERRATED!!!
I like this story, i was not bored with it with too many friends and many possible love pairs...i love the fact that this includes a question about their parents, what's the parents think of their choice of careers taken,
the insight of the parents in the decisions that they will be making...
also the reaction of most parents in this environment they will be facing in the future...
its my always question on how will the parents react to this kind of relationship...
that many factors can cause misunderstandings even a little bit of mistrust is fatal...
important factors to consider in making a decision, many things that they won't expect to come
with friends support in story its perfect...
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It not that great but I still recommend it
I remember hearing this series come out since I watch the trailer and say this is one of the best selling novel, so I put my expectations high
First episode is kinda mess to me that make me want to drop, but I giving the second chance by skip episode two
And started episode three, I was suprise that jin can talk nicely to bboom (like from hate to love it hard to see the bottom speak with top nicely in first few episodes) and it keep giving me better and better story development
Yes, I being honest that I was uncomfortable too when see too many scene in bar or soccer competition, but it common not even in world bl series, but in reality too
I love bboom and jin so much but aim it definitely my favourite character ,cause she end what she started for the sake of there friendship
Lastly if you want bl series that not have much conflict and more focus on development relationship ,then here you go
Thank you produce and writer for making this series , i love it so much
See you guys in season 2 ,from me who love
"Niti man, society and lover"
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With friends like these, I'd rather stay single....
I've got a serious bone to pick with this show! (I'm going full rage mode, so enjoy:$ )Don't get me wrong, I did kinda enjoy the show enough to binge it but then again I am used to way worse.
First off, I feel like all the characters were trying to gaslight me into thinking that Jin was crappy, not to be trusted, bomb deserved someone who readily could be accepting of him and obviously Jin is a player...
Did we get to know the same Jin as you??
I swear the show starts with Jin breaking up with Aim because he thinks she cheated on him (which btw never gets cleared up or clarified??) not because he is nilly willy breaking girls hearts left and right as some characters make it seem out to be. Then we find out later that Aim presumably never really cared to be with Jin in the first place and just went along with it even though her cousin Bomb was into him. Bomb also presumably is the first guy Jin ever fell for so this boy just kinda needs his time to figure out what that means to him and how he feels about the whole thing, which is understandable for everyone but all the other characters in this show. Bomb literally tells Jin he can take his time to figure out his feelings (since he just got out of a break up don't forget and now is falling for her freaking cousin who happens to be a guy.) But within what couldn't have been more than a few days he does a 180 and decides to completely avoid Jin? Per advice from Jack... (and this will apparently become the first clue to the endless saga of unfortunate events planned by the worst cupids I've ever seen)
Yes Jin is talking to Som at the same time as he is getting closer to Bomb, but they aren't dating and it's not even that strange for people around his age to talk to multiple people in order to figure out what you even like. Rather that than just jumping into one thing and continuing with another because you hadn't taken the time to make up your mind.
But when Jin on his own finally decides he chooses bomb and reject Som, bomb ofcourse chooses to officially avoid Jin, for absolutely no good reason other than insecurity. Causing Jin to now also feel insecure about Bomb and understandably feeling ignored by him. When they do eventually see each other by chance, Bomb even acts relatively hostile as though he already gave up on the whole thing with Jin. But then continues a few days later to sing a song at the bar about always being there???? Jin calls bomb later that night and the two meet up, but Bomb still acts super annoyed and impatient with Jin. Somehow after all of that behavior Jin still ends up finding the courage to be honest about how hurt he was and how he feels as he is crying in front of this whole ass undeserving ass man. Something Bomb literally never continues to do no matter what misunderstanding he entraps himself in. The two of them get together and you think 'awesome... but there are still too many episodes left so what could possibly go wrong?' Well I'd say Bomb's friends and cousin drugging him so he might take advantage of a drunk Jin who had to tell Bomb not just once no, but TRICE, is a fair guess. Sweety that is 2 no's too many times. 1 no should always be enough. But ofcourse they slipped a condom in Bomb's back pocket because you know you got to at least stay safe... Yet since they never ended up doing anything the freaking condom just ends up in a big misunderstand between Bomb and Jin later on when it falls out of his pocket. This is chaotic mess number 2 caused by the friend group. Luckily Jin is mature enough to yet again voice his insecurities and they clear the air right away. This is also when Bomb tells Jin that he has been in communication with a girl that tried to court him before, but hey it's only business? (still don't know what that means, since she never appears nor do we know what kind of business they have with each other.) and has the AUDACITY to mention either in this scene or a scene later on, i don't remember, that he didn't make a big deal out of Jin talking to Som. Sir... you ignored him for a WEEK because she helped him to the hospital when he injured his leg. And you weren't even dating, the f' you mean?? Jin also completely stopped talking to Som after he rejected her that same night after the hospital. Anyway moving on to Jack telling Bomb he shouldn't always trust Jin. Yeah you know Jack... one of Jin's best friends? Apparently telling someone they can't trust their significant other is a way of matchmaking now. I know it's new me too, but it seems all the rage in this show! Bomb ends up seeing Mark, a senior of Jin who he has been wary of, bring Jin home as part of the friend group scheme and of course gets SUPER UPSET. To the point where he accuses Jin and makes Jin cry. This is literally the THIRD time he made Jin cry when Jin did absolutely nothing wrong at all. But Jin crying results into them somewhat making up again. But we still have 1 problem, Jin isn't ready to make his relationship public because the attention they have been getting makes him uncomfortable. Honestly, with all that has happened, I would feel the same F'ing way...
So as if they haven't done enough, this group of friends think that these 2 coming together has been all their hard work and they want to do one final thing. Convince Jin to make things public, because manipulating someone into essentially coming out is fine now too. Also NO ONE GIVES JIN ENOUGH CREDIT. The only reason Jin and Bomb are together is because Jin never gave up on Bomb and keeps trying to open up, being vulnerable and actively try to communicate with Bomb when all he does is shut down, close off, run away and accuse Jin of not giving him what he wants. There is nothing wrong with wanting a relationship that isn't hidden, but my man, you are the one who said you were okay with waiting. If you aren't than just say so, that is literally all you had to do to avoid this whole drama anyway. Jin seems mature enough to figure it out with you.
So for their final act the group for some reason decides to make Bomb jealous enough so he will run away, have Jin go after him and make things official official? I'm honestly not exactly sure what the plan was. But that's what I could make out of the odd sequence of events. So as you can imagine with Bomb's track record, he gets completely destroyed with jealousy and runs home for the holidays. But not before we get the final icing on the cake, the cherry on top, the creme de la creme if you will. We get him spotting Aim (his cousin and Jin's ex if you remember) hugging Jin. Somehow that was not part of the plan? But also definitely worth mentioning since this is the moment Aim confesses that she knew of Bomb's feelings from the get go and how she feels like she manipulated both of their feelings and their relationship. Aim is weeping at this point, riddled with guilt and shame and hugs Jin as he tells her that they are now even. WHAT THE FUCCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKK Jin babes? when did you ever do anything to deserve any of this? He said he wasn't a good boyfriend, but we never saw him be a bad one, the boy didn't even move on for the longest time as he still was head over heels with Aim post break up. She moved on way before him. And a scene later she is gloating again on how her plan is working.. crocodile tears? New achievement unlocked: Gaslighting Jin. Oh yeah, so Bomb sees this and the first thing he thinks is that his cousin who is now in a new relationship and his boyfriend who keeps crying because Bomb keeps distrusting him for no reason, are absolutely without a shadow of a doubt obviously getting back together. I mean yes, that is the only logical conclusion, so there is no need for any conversation to be had and we can now just go and fuck ourselves off to the nearest airport so we can run back home to mommy and sulk in GIGANTIC MANSION OF A HOUSE. Dude I'm low key jealous and I may want to stay single for the rest of my life if I get to retire in that house... Uhm but yeah, come to find out that Aim and friends did want Bomb jealous and running home to mommy, so plan is still in tact and Jin being an absolute babe of a man is willing to fly over and visit his doofus of a boyfriend at his house. For some unrelated and unexplained reason even the mom likes to f' around and pretends she doesn't know who Jin is, so Jin comes out to her as he can't afford to lose Bomb again after another hissy fit and they all just kinda laugh it off. Aim and friends are finally satisfied and pat themselves on the back as Jin now suprises Bomb hitting him with the '' Facebook official ''. And we all live happily ever after. Well that is ofcourse, besides all the hinted at side couples that never get their resolution. The End.
It is what it is. I like Jin. I need therapy for all the gaslighting and probably a sequel because I've got Stockholm syndrome and daddy Keam needs himself a man.
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Great story, hampered by many side characters with weak plot and mediocre acting skill
Great story, hampered by many side characters with weak plot and mediocre acting skill...Went into watching this one thinking just to past time as at that time, the choices of currently airing Thai BL was very bland ( FUTS and some other shorts), but the storyline of the main leads immediately became a breather from the suffocating comedic satire that was FUTS.
Visually, the cinematography is not that great and too many side characters had made it drag a little but ultimately, the love story of the two character carry the weight until the ending.
The ending, though, will probably annoy other viewers, specially if they are rooting for the storyline of other side characters. This series only gave a proper (black and white) ending to the main leads. The sides were kind of just of an after thought.
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