A small note on the term "Undocumented"

I feel that to really appreciate the standpoint and complexity of the  characters Yun Gil Ho, Min Seo Jin, Kim Jae Hui, it helps to understand the complexity of this term Undocumented.

In many regions, the term Undocumented, usually suggests a migrant who is living in a region without a visa, aka an illegal immigrant.  This is not necessarily so in South Korea. Whether a child is born of a single mother, poverty stricken parents, immigrants, even North Korean defectors, registration of births is not straightforward.

South Korea has somewhat socially complex, family registration laws.  It is only since 2008, that females have been legally able to register their child's birth. https://www.international-divorce.com/family-registration-law-korea.htm. I.e. Before 2008, if you were born to a single mother, and your father did not acknowledge your birth, your birth could not legally be registered - therefore you're Undocumented.

And it is only THIS year, 2024, that the SK government has been forced to legislate to close a loophole, that allowed thousands of children to remain unregistered (otherwise known as "Ghost Babies") https://m.koreatimes.co.kr/pages/article.asp?newsIdx=378919. Parents must register births and could, until this year 2024, choose not to. Hospitals etc., played no part in the registration of births.  

The stigma surrounding children of single mothers, orphans, adoptees, abandoned children, continues to be significant in South Korea. Patriarchal family systems are still absolutely the minimum expectation in society. The law may have changed in 2008, but human societies can be slow to change. If you are in this undocumented category, you are automatically an underclass, in a very class based society. I.e. as an underclass, you're not even included in the class strata!  You don't even qualify as lower-class.  Yun Gil Ho, Min Seo Jin, Kim Jae Hui, ALL originate from this category. 

Very interesting, thank you for writing this!

Thank you for this. It is definitely important context for this story.

I ask one favor, as an English speaker: please refer to "women" and not "females". If English is not your first language, the difference may not be understood, if not. So, I'll explain for those that may come along.

 "Female" is a scientific sex term and it dehumanizes women to reduce them to that. It is currently being used by right-wing men who want to claim "your body, my choice." When someone calls people "females", it is a signifier that they are against women's rights and do not see women as human beings of equal status. They are trying to establish their dominance over women.

So, please, please, don't let this oppressive terminology leak out and be normalized. Thank you.

I deliberately chose females.  In this context it's a legal term, and appropriate.  I understand your worry but I will be working very hard to not let someone else hijack the use of ANOTHER word associated with females/girls/women etc. by continuing to use it.

Thanks a lot for sharing this information, Toot! This is indeed important to understand what's going on in the story. I really thought it's about illegal immigrants. It's really crazy that "ghost children" still exist and that SK solved this problem only this year. Well, better late than never.

Please feel free to use the term "female" as you wish. Intelligent women understand what you mean and are able to interpret words in contexts. I know that because I'm a woman myself. The dehumanisation of women happens when we get called "menstruating people" while males still get called man/males instead of "sperm producing people", or when people deny our biology and biological differences in general. Child birth is not an ideological problem but a biological one affecting females only. In many places, babies and children get killed because they are female, not because they claim to be female. For thousands of years, females were denied rights because they are female, not because they claimed to be female. These facts do not change if we swap "female" with "woman". People we might not like, do not own words, so them using "females" does not change anything unless we want to give them the power to own words.

That's a great explanation ItsAMe. In your final sentence, you've absolutely clarified my point about continuing to use the language I choose.

I'm heading off on a slightly philosophical bent here but I must admit, it does frustrate me that you have to identify yourself as 'a woman', and that UnaSpenser has to identify themselves as an 'English Speaker'. I assume, to give weight to the argument.  I look forward to a time when these identifying statements are not necessary...  I say "Bring on the days when it's us against the AI bots!"  Sarcastically of course. But maybe the AI enemy will bring us together ;D  

It seems humanity STILL needs a common enemy to unite us, as being 'a person' or 'human' is still not enough. Our capacity for empathy and our ability to be compassionate, should not be contingent upon whether or not a person is part of our group or category or identifiers,  whatever they may be.

Which brings me back to the whole reason I opened this discussion in the first place! The Undocumented,  amongst others in this show, are de-humanised.   It's more palatable as a viewer, to write all the 'bad guys' off as sociopaths, but I think you can view this as more nuanced than that.  The perpetrators in this, are far more mundane and everyday, and to put it brutally, exist EVERYWHERE. The capacity to perpetrate the abuse we see in this drama, comes from an ability to 'other' people.  It is easier to committ harm if you don't THINK you have a connection to those you are harming.  Empathy, compassion and a bit of humility are the only things that are going to save humanity

 Based on where the comments section has headed Min Seo Jin is now the character to whom the audience needs to show some compassion, but I'm just too fatigued to begin to try to understand it.

@Toot, that's exactly why I defended your use of the term "female" because I believe that those well-meaning ... people are way too eager to portray themselves as good followers of their preferred ideology than to solve actual problems.

This "undocumented" subject is important to me because I feel for all those innocent children and do not care if they are female or male. Sadly, many self-proclaimed feminists do distinguish and are eager to deny that boys/men are suffering too. Or they claim that females suffer way more, and therefore males do not deserve any compassion cause "patriarchy". I believe that's one of the reasons why progress is so slow. Those poor innocent children grow up, and they do not have many chances to escape their misery. While we almost automatically feel for the poor women, we almost always condemn the men.

Anyways, in the end, dramas are fiction, and they exist to generate money, not to change the world. When watching dramas, I always have in mind that it's fiction, and I watch them to be entertained. Kdramas make that easy for me because they are rarely subtle and nuanced. The writers basically tell you how you are supposed to feel about certain characters. :/

 Toot:
Yun Gil Ho, Min Seo Jin, Kim Jae Hui, ALL originate from this category.

Min Seo Jin and Kim Jae hui too? Where did they reveal that in the kdrama? I must have missed it

In the first episode, pretty quietly. Other characters made statements to them along the lines of "You have no-one else" or "You come from nothing".