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Who's the mystery killer?

Fairydustpuppy

In some short clip, it seems like Qiao is the one who was involved in the killing of ShiYi mom. Not sure if it is real or not ... or just to mislead viewers. 

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 funnypeopleswim:

Random theory: what if it's the embroidery teacher? She knew they were leaving that day, she can embroider. We are automatically trusting her but she would probably benefit from a Sea ban too if she had the right suppliers or merchants.

At the beginning I was thinking the same thing but after she helped her escape after she got kidnap I didn't think it was likely but she still at the back of my mind because she she was one of the people who knew they were trying to escape plus I don't know there's just something more about her that is not adding up

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Alekzu
 Fairydustpuppy:

In some short clip, it seems like Qiao is the one who was involved in the killing of ShiYi mom. Not sure if it is real or not ... or just to mislead viewers. 

I've seen that clip as well. But that seriously doesn't make sense, unless Shiyi niangs mother was simply killed cause she saw something she shouldn't. At the time of the murder, Shiyi posed no real threat to Qiao, since it was Erniang they intended to marry off to Xu Lingyi, and Shiyi was supposed to marry the Wang guy. There's definitely something real fishy going on here, and the scriptwriter seems to be trying to mislead us. 

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bzwifenmom

It could be the brother of Lingyi..... Lingkuan.

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AwkwarDerp

Personally, I think it's someone outside the Xu and the Luo Family, here is my theory: 

1. Luo Madame always talked about how independent 11th is, how hard it will be to control her (early episode when talking to Yuanniang). Plus on top of that, Luo Madame knows, 11th's mother is her biggest weakness, therefore, there's no way she would take the risk to kill 11th's mother because with her mother being alive, it's way easier to control her. 

2. The Xu family technically doesn't have any grudge against the Luo Family. At that time, nobody even knows she was 11th's mother, so if they wanted to take revenge for Lianfang, it doesn't make sense either because when they saw 11th's mother, they even said "is this your mother" therefore, how would they know who to kill.

I am waiting for the little monk, who said "I forgot to tell that lady something" then magically disappeared. Either he told his master and his master got scared so he went to hid him or he was killed off. 

My biggest guess right now was her death was more "accidental" as in she witnessed something she shouldn't have. This person could be someone who has the authority or it could be a careless servant/killer who was working on a mission for somebody and he was caught, so he decided to kill Concubine Lv. 

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On top of this, I want to know who killed Yuanniang, my biggest guess is  Xu Lingyi's mother. 

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Jinxinsiyu

@AwkwarDerp I pretty much agree with most of your points except for the one who poison Yuan Niang. Madam Tai is actually bias towards Qiao but I don't think she would murder for her. Besides their lives was saved by Yuan Niang's grandfather and only the Luo family are kind to them when they were really down. That's why she is actually affectionate with her. It just happen she knows that her disease is incurable that's why she wants to have Qiao as her replacement. My guess would be between Qin and Qiao.

The young monk is back in episode 23. 

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Bowties are cool

I think its safe to say that Shi Yi's mother was killed because she saw something she shouldn't have. 

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 Jinxinsiyu:

@AwkwarDerp I pretty much agree with most of your points except for the one who poison Yuan Niang. Madam Tai is actually bias towards Qiao but I don't think she would murder for her. Besides their lives was saved by Yuan Niang's grandfather and only the Luo family are kind to them when they were really down. That's why she is actually affectionate with her. It just happen she knows that her disease is incurable that's why she wants to have Qiao as her replacement. My guess would be between Qin and Qiao.

The young monk is back in episode 23. 

Good point! Definitely some good point but I only came up with Madame Xu since everyone was quick to be so sure Qiao was gonna be the main wife, which I find it quite surprising, even if she’s sick. As of right now, beside Madame Xu, concubine Qin is my next suspect because of how mysterious she is. 

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Jinxinsiyu

@AwkwarDerp I just think it would be impossible for Houye and Shiyi to be together if it's madam Tai. And she would be really evil if she kills the granddaughter of the man who saves her whole family from death.

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@AwkwarDerp have you seen the trailer for ep 26? Shiyi gets Qiao to admit that she is the one who killed Yunniang. I suspected all along but wow,

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Alekzu
 Bowties are cool:

@AwkwarDerp have you seen the trailer for ep 26? Shiyi gets Qiao to admit that she is the one who killed Yunniang. I suspected all along but wow, 

I saw that. I was expecting it as well. Just remains to see who killed the mother then. 

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AwkwarDerp
 Bowties are cool:

@AwkwarDerp have you seen the trailer for ep 26? Shiyi gets Qiao to admit that she is the one who killed Yunniang. I suspected all along but wow, 

You see Yuanniang was actually on my head cause she had the ability to come to the Xu family, on top of that, she was very desperate to become the main wife. My theory tho, I feel like there's no way Xu Madame doesn't know about it. Like Qiao is not very smart with her scheme. 

That's also why I said, I find it very weird for her to assumed she was gonna be the main wife, even before Yuanniang was dead, that's why when she was forced to become a concubine, there was such a big fuss, like think about it, Yuanniang was just sick....so if you wanted to marry the Marquis, you're obviously going to become a concubine, so why was she so surprised? 

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 AwkwarDerp:

You see Yuanniang was actually on my head cause she had the ability to come to the Xu family, on top of that, she was very desperate to become the main wife. My theory tho, I feel like there's no way Xu Madame doesn't know about it. Like Qiao is not very smart with her scheme. 

That's also why I said, I find it very weird for her to assumed she was gonna be the main wife, even before Yuanniang was dead, that's why when she was forced to become a concubine, there was such a big fuss, like think about it, Yuanniang was just sick....so if you wanted to marry the Marquis, you're obviously going to become a concubine, so why was she so surprised? 

I disagree, I don't think Madame Xu does know about how evil Qiao is. She values legitimate children more than illegitimate but she still cares about the children since they are the future of the Xu family and are to be protected at all costs. Madame Xu probably can bring herself to think that this girl she watched grow up and pampered is a murderer.

For everything else that granny is she is not ungrateful and she recognizes the part that the Luo family played in keeping her family alive after her husband and son were killed by the Ou family scheme. 

If Qiao is also the one who killed Shiyi's mother then am going to have to say that the writer lacks imagination - it should be someone we never expected.

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AwkwarDerp

I just get a vibe from her because even with Zhun’s incident, she was never properly punished (or maybe it actually was an accident) and on top of that, the moldy grain situation which could’ve cost the whole family (even though she didn’t do it, but she was responsible for the family affair). In my theory, there’s a lot of thing Madame Xu had turned a blind eye on, I really do hope she’s like what you said, not ungrateful but she’s definitely unreasonable because I remember one thing Xu Madame once said “this child is getting too impatient”, so her schemes are recognizable but she doesn’t want to do anything. Definitely, Qiao did not do it alone tho, I feel like there’s someone else helping her because although Qiao is selfish and manipulative, she doesn’t strike me as a “kill” person unless someone put that idea in her head. 

I really don’t think Qiao killed ShiYi’s mother because she have no motive. At that time, ShiYi was bound to marry Wang Yu that’s why they were running away, plus like I’ve mentioned before ShiYi and her mom are pretty low in status so nobody really knows them. Unless you’re talking about taking revenge for the banquet incident then i don’t think so cause although it wrecked her reputation but at that time it wasn’t to the point to kill since it doesn’t benefit her. Yuanniang on the other hand, was a good target because once she’s gone she can replaced her. 

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Jinxinsiyu

@AwkwarDerp you can rest assured that madam Tai is not the one who helped Qiao because I've seen a clip in baidu where Qiao is begging her but she pushes her away. And she's part of the last meal scene so if she commited something so grave I don't think she'll be part of the happy ending.

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