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This is discussion place for those who want to discuss the difference between original and drama adaptation.

I sooooo agree to that Whinny Tang San thing!! Actor fans kept defending that saying they prefer tha. Idk if that's cuz it's Xiao Zhan or actually their sincere thought. I think the former. (It's not like I'm attacking Xiao Zhan, why r they so salty!!) Tang San plays a big role when Sherk 7 fights as a team with his control system and honestly, the current Tang San isn't dependable at all. I would rather go solo than fight in the same team as him. Anyways, they destroyed my Tang San. They destroyed all that he fought for in his past life with that single change.

Also, did u say BiBi Dong's little spawn is in Sherk??

And yes that spider's coloring is horrible.

And Ao ZiYi (Ma HongJun) is 18 and the rest of the actors are in their 20s. That is a huge age gap. Not to mention he isn't much an actor tbh. I've seen a bit of the TF Family's Obsessed with Hearts and the actings are barely passing. Did the director take a bribe from the better-dead-than-alive Time FengJun??

Why, oh why did they adapt this knowing rebirth is not allowed?? (Assuming it is, cuz I dont believe it)

Oh here's something I posted before in the comments but lmk what you guys think:

So obviously the biggest change is that Tang San is not a reincarnation so his smarts and his tactical prowess is significantly lowered in comparison to book TS. His Xuan Tian abilities also are instead taught by his father which I think to new viewers might make them think not only his father but the Hao Tian clan knows how to perform Xuan Tian skills and craft hidden weapons as well.

Do you think we could've gotten a pseudo novel accurate Tang San if we had expanded upon the legend of Holy Spirit Village and made the Spirit Master of the legend actually the representation of novel Tang San. CDrama Tang San could find the Xuan Tian Records at the site of the monument or shrine dedicated to the legend and start training on his own from there. The Xuan Tian Records could function more as a diary of advice and skill book that influences Tang San's way of thinking and boom we get a more book accurate CDrama Tang San. He could train through the book in secret via throughout the series or through the four seasons scene they did in the beginning, just make it a montage. I personally like the former better because I think it's more exciting to see CDrama TS ascend into being the novel TS. He could also burn the book seeing it as its techniques can be dangerous in the wrong hands as his reason after learning or likewise his dad the same way they did in the drama for the same reason. This would definitely prop up this Spirit Master figure to be some figure in the drama's history which we can tack onto the Evil Phoenix War Story they added or even forget about it as some lost figure of a legend. 

So my idea isn't so much of it just being a tome filled with the skills, but also like think My Hero Academia s1 ep 1 where Deku has loads and loads of journals about how to go about situations with villains and how to act as hero. The tome could record more similarly about novel TS's past life. The effect is more so not just skills but sort of like if you were to take a philosophy class as well to change your thinking. In a sense, the tome/text is almost like a mentor due to it reading more like a diary recounting the life of this Spirit Master who's actually pseudo-novel-TS and his mistakes. So yes, even with this change CDrama TS would still be inexperienced but the idea would be that he's far more prepared and cautious as the tome would be like his first thread to the outside world. In such a way that he'd be more analytical about things the way novel TS always is.

It also fixes the problem of new viewers potentially thinking and expecting Tang Hao and the Hao Tian clan to be fully capable of the Xuan Tian Records. I see it as a problem because if they melded the Tang Clan and the Hao Tian clan together since Tang Hao teaches the Xuan Tian Records, that means hidden weapons already exist on the Continent, so people acting surprised at TS doing the same thing would immediately cause them to look dumb and it would also be an identifier of someone of the Hao Tian clan.

@onibro - yes, that works well. After all that fits the typical set up of many novels. In a way, it is similar to Lin Ming, who keeps picking up bits of souls from the cube. They are like a diary or an instruction book, there is no living person guiding him and he has to face the obstacles by himself. 

When I look at what is coming with the Ice and Fire Ying Yang well, Dugu Bo, Slaughter City (Chinese book fans are 99% certain Chinese laws and especially because it is being aired on CCTV will not allow for it), then all my other issues, I have to ask myself what was the point of "adapting" or rewriting Douluo Dalu in the first place? Anime and book fans aren't watching, so the original fans left a long time ago. New fans don't actually know anything about DD. Why destroy such a huge, rich IP? Word in China is that a lot of usual issues with script being potentially influenced have popped up. But it is a shame that the real beauty of DD remains hidden and drama fans are in the vast majority very resistant to the original because they feel the need to feel superior that is exacerbated by the complaints of original fans. So again, what was the point. What a waste. 

@Shrimpy,

I bet they will have a more tame version of Slaughter City, otherwise why is Hu Lie Na even here? That's where she and Tang San get close and they are trying to make HLN a more important character. If they cut the whole Slaughter City arc they could just remove her character entirely.

Dugu Bo is on the cast list so I'd guess he will pop up in some capacity? He's one of my favorite characters, would be a shame if he got cut. I love him and Tang San's dynamic

Personally Tang San's gadgets were one of my favorite parts of the book, am really sad they've mostly being ignored in the drama. That scene where he unleashes the Bhudda's Wrath Lotus is so fucking hype

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@Shrimpy,

I bet they will have a more tame version of Slaughter City, otherwise why is Hu Lie Na even here? That's where she and Tang San get close and they are trying to make HLN a more important character. If they cut the whole Slaughter City arc they could just remove her character entirely.

Dugu Bo is on the cast list so I'd guess he will pop up in some capacity? He's one of my favorite characters, would be a shame if he got cut. I love him and Tang San's dynamic

Personally Tang San's gadgets were one of my favorite parts of the book, am really sad they've mostly being ignored in the drama. That scene where he unleashes the Bhudda's Wrath Lotus is so fucking hype

Dugu Bo is there but Tang San has no knowledge of poisons. Considering Xiao Wu gets poisoned, Tang San cannot help her then possibly Dugu Bo will play a part in that. The whole original plot with DB, which is my favourite part of the first half of the novel along with hidden weapons doesn't seem possible. Ice and Fire Ying Yang Well is changed as well. Xiao Wu is again present so who the heck knows. 

About Slaughter City, all I can tell you is what the Chinese book fans are currently thinking in some places - it is perhaps Tang Chen, not Tang Hao who is connected to mutating souls so this is also perhaps why Hu Liena is here. No Slaughter City at all but this potential new plot. But they are not sure obviously. At this point considering all the changes and completely original material, it is impossible to guess. 

I really hope that Mr. Screenwriter knows where he is taking this story. I accept that TS can't have memories of a past life but was it necessary to add so many random plots for seemingly no reason? If they have good payoff I'll accept it but every episode gives me less hope.

Rewatched episode 15 because I remembered something. Why does Tang San have the poison bottle? He very cleared gets poisoned by the bottle at the end of episode 15, but there is only one poison bottle, I'm pretty sure, and Lande the dean has it which they very clearly showed  at the beginning of ep 15.  So.... there's most definitely a mistake in the script here because there is no logical reason why Lande and XG would allow TS to handle the poison after everything. Unless there's actually a cut scene somewhere as well.... Unless I missed that there were two poison bottles, but why would Lande and XG even allow TS to handle it knowing his desperation...