[Discussion] Good Doctor

I gave up writing episode reviews for 7 and 8. It's just too messy. I hate Do Han. What the crap man, how can saying goodbye to people mean hurting them?! Oh yeah sure, you're so brotherly! You'd think he's turning over a new leaf in Ep 8 but he actually is already scouting the whole Ped Dept to transfer to a new hospital and he's leaving Si On out. That's why to lessen his guilt (or worse trying to cover what he's doing and he has no guilt whatsoever) he's trying make him transfer to Clinical Pathology! Just selfish.

Kang Hyun Tae is an opportunist. He makes allies out of everybody and so he can manipulate them to his interest. We can never be too sure where he stands.

Ep 8 - that Tiger mom. I wanna slap her hard. Nothing else.

I want to see this one...still undecided if I watch while is on air or just wait till is over, to watch a marathon.....

meighy wrote: I agree with everyone that more focus on Si On would be great. I never post in these forums, but this show has made me want to say some things.

1. Why did they say Park Si On has the mental age of a 10 year old? Social age, yes, but mental age, no.
2. I know a lot of people don't like the thought of seeing Si On in a romance, but I'm looking forward to it. He acts differently than other people, but he is a grown man and a very sweet and thoughtful one.
3. In Hae is a great character, and I hope they don't kill her off for added pathos.
4. Do Han will probably turn around, but he better do it soon or I will never like him. He's just downright cruel to Si On.
5. Does anyone else hope the next episode won't be "watch people treat an autistic doctor like crap for an hour?" It's getting a little old. I want to start seeing how people are going to help Si On make it work, because he's going to need help.

My point exactly. After 8 episodes of seeing him get bullied, you'd think there would already be progress on that department. Well, there is. The marauders leveled up. If they don't tone it down, it'll get disappointing.

I like this drama so far, but I hope they will stop bully Si On soon. Because I think that is one of the reasons why he gets all nervous, when in comes to "action" - in first episode he was able to give the kid first aid with a cool head, so why is he so nervous now? Is it because he feels pressure? And I still can not figure out the assistant director (the one with glasses). What is his goal? Did I miss something?

angelitocurioso wrote: Have you ever worked in a hospital? Because you are right. You have to understand your surroundings to really know what is going on. I worked in a hospital...and what a lesson that was. I saw nurses, doctors, family member totally cold hearted treating patients and their pain like if it was nothing....

I know that now you can't call a patient "patient"; now is called a "client" because you are receiving he/she "service" and I'm like ~wut? are you kidding me?~ Well, I always knew that hospitals always treated patients *coughs* clients, like money making machines, but calling them "clients" is like the *insert here something very disgusting* <-- the most disgusting thing ever.

I know, that for to do a good job as a doctor/nurse/paramedic/health care provider, you have to distance yourself from the "client" and his pain...but sometimes I just think that humanity lose the ability to feel empathy and that is why we (and I have to include myself) are so cold hearted .... Pitty, I still have faith in humanity!

I also work in this field. Unnecessary to say: yes there are a lot of cold hearted people in professional health care. I think most of the health care workers start out with the idea that they will try their absolute best for their patients. I noticed however, that after a while (even in internships) new colleagues/students are 'infected' by the attitude other carers have.

The patient (yes, still calling it patient :P) is in a vulnerable position, and as a consequence a lot of people start to act a little superior (I think it is a natural phenomenon). And I mean a little: its like baby steps every time. For example, working with elderly: carers start to forget that these people need privacy too! It is not that these people are bad, but it is something that creeps in and if you don't notice it in your own action, or someone else (a lot of times someone from outside of the working environment) tells you, it will get worse and worse.

I don't agree that you should distance yourself from the patient or his pain. Yes, of course there need to be some professional distance. And it is not healthy to blame yourself or feel guilty about the patients pains and problems. But even when you can't help him in a somatic way, talking and empathizing is an important part of the job. It is something that a lot of somatic carers forget: mental health influences the physical health. Not just asking 'do you feel pain, do you want painkillers?' but actually talking about how it influences them and if there are other solutions (like distractions). Pain shared is pain halved. You can let patients share their pain with you, without feeling a lot of the pain yourself. Just listening is medicine too.

Of course, it would help if there was enough money and time to give patients care. But even with little of both there is room for improvements in a lot of settings.

I think it is a good thing you realize you can act cold hearted. But now that you know, I think you should try to change it. I don't know what job it is you have exactly, but even little things can mean a lot. Like when you have an extra minute, go to one of the patients and just have a little chat. And if a patients complains, don't start to defend yourself immediately, but listen. There are a lot of useless complainers (yes I know :D), but a lot of time (there are always a few rotten apples) it is because they actually are lonely or sad and they just need some attention.

Oh well, I will stop here :D. Didn't mean to lecture, was just enthusiastic about the subject ;).

Totoro wrote: I also work in this field. Unnecessary to say: yes there are a lot of cold hearted people in professional health care. I think most of the health care workers start out with the idea that they will try their absolute best for their patients. I noticed however, that after a while (even in internships) new colleagues/students are 'infected' by the attitude other carers have.

The patient (yes, still calling it patient :P) is in a vulnerable position, and as a consequence a lot of people start to act a little superior (I think it is a natural phenomenon). And I mean a little: its like baby steps every time. For example, working with elderly: carers start to forget that these people need privacy too! It is not that these people are bad, but it is something that creeps in and if you don't notice it in your own action, or someone else (a lot of times someone from outside of the working environment) tells you, it will get worse and worse.

I don't agree that you should distance yourself from the patient or his pain. Yes, of course there need to be some professional distance. And it is not healthy to blame yourself or feel guilty about the patients pains and problems. But even when you can't help him in a somatic way, talking and empathizing is an important part of the job. It is something that a lot of somatic carers forget: mental health influences the physical health. Not just asking 'do you feel pain, do you want painkillers?' but actually talking about how it influences them and if there are other solutions (like distractions). Pain shared is pain halved. You can let patients share their pain with you, without feeling a lot of the pain yourself. Just listening is medicine too.

Of course, it would help if there was enough money and time to give patients care. But even with little of both there is room for improvements in a lot of settings.

I think it is a good thing you realize you can act cold hearted. But now that you know, I think you should try to change it. I don't know what job it is you have exactly, but even little things can mean a lot. Like when you have an extra minute, go to one of the patients and just have a little chat. And if a patients complains, don't start to defend yourself immediately, but listen. There are a lot of useless complainers (yes I know :D), but a lot of time (there are always a few rotten apples) it is because they actually are lonely or sad and they just need some attention.

Oh well, I will stop here :D. Didn't mean to lecture, was just enthusiastic about the subject ;).

Omo! Where is the heart button when you need one. This is so very true. Uri dongsaeng is a senior resident surgeon at a public hospital...when I say public, the hospital facilities and condition are so-so; the medical professionals are overworked, underpaid and have limited benefits; the majority of its patients come from the marginalized sector of society. The first time my sister came across power play at the hospital was in her first year as a resident. She was disgusted. She couldn't understand why her seniors were called professionals when couldn't foster a harmonious and constructive working environment.

I'd like to think my sis didn't change (as she was unfortunately a victim of politics and pulled strings in the hospital) though she did gain a bit of a professional distance from her patients--although where the elderly and kids are involved, she holds a soft spot. She'd 'run away' back home and tell us stories about her patients and it's either an old woman with cancer who gave her bread or a 5-year old who accidentally tripped into a hot cauldron of cooking oil (augh--T____T). There'd be times when we won't see her for months, she practically lives in the hospital and just naps and showers at her dorm room.

nytwp wrote: The should just take the chance to get to know Si On better and take advantage of his skills, rather than to talk them down and act like he's a compylete hinderance. He just needs guidance to get used to his new environment, but moreso they need to adjust to him more not the other way around. He could never replace a nonautistic doctor in his function, but could be a helpful addition to the team.

I hope they end up showing though that we can actually learn a lot from people with autism.

This, I'm almost feeling kind of cheated watching this drama haha :D. I wish it was more balanced in that aspect.

Yeah, they need to show drama watchers more about Si On's condition because we common people only know so little. It just needs to be less corporate.

This drama is becoming boring and if it doesn't get better soon; I will have to drop it. It's a pity that the cast is good.

Am i the only one?I just wanted to see what other people think about episode 12.I even made it a little review and since i like to analyze dramas i would like to see what other people may think about my thoughts. From the first time i saw the story about Park Shi On's and Professors Kim brothers i thought it was no coincidence and the flashbacks have proven that.Not long after meeting Shi On Professor Kim had a flashback about his little brothers death who was mentally disable,the story was sad and i'm sure professor kim's character is blaming himself for his death thinking that maybe he was to 'soft' with him and ignored his mental state thus leading to his death so this time seeing someone like Shi On and knowing he has no family he took him in as his 'little brother' in a way, and is trying to be harsher with him from fear that if he acted nice something bad will happen with Shi On like it did with his brother,his fiancée said that he never gets mad at her(meaning he doesn't really care) while with park shi on he gets easily irritated(meaning that he actually cares for his wellbeing). Next is Shi On who in this episode remembered how his older brother protected him from bullies,resulting me to think that Shi On will start,if not already to see Professor Kim as a Big Brother. In the last few episodes Shi On said that 'everybody hated him' and i'm sure that no matter what he says he still has that feeling, here is where Shi On's father comes.There is no such thing as coincidence in drama and i saw it proven many times.Because of his childhood trauma Shi On will be afraid of his father and will get scared but then Cha Yoon and Professor Kim knowing about the abuse will protect him,not to mention the director and Shi On's mother(maybe it's actually a chance his mother will have to tell him the truth but i'm not yet sure).Not to mention once more staff from the hospital will find out about his father they will protect him(100% sure about the nurses and the other interns) making him realize that he is not actually 'hated' by anyone. The battle of power the hospital has should be thought as a battle of good doctors(those who think about the patience health) and bad once(who only seek money and fame).I'm not all that bored of this matter because for all we know such thing really are happening even in the hospitals near us,because as you can see even though the hospital is having such an internal fight yet there is no media or scandals that outsiders know of.I'm pretty sure not even the nurses or simple doctors know of what's actually happening. This battle is a good indicator to the fact that many people are ignorant about what is happening between those who actually have some kind of power and that there are many things still hidden from us,commoners.At least this is the way i see this battle Thanks to whoever read this