Oh please, please, please don't give me a lesson on a black and white opposition between enjoyment and quality. I get it, believe me. I know and do believe that one can, to a certain extent, judge the objective value of something, that everything is not completely relative. Yes, obviously. In fact, I'm in art school, so it's something I think about
all. the. time. Does objective and universal beauty exist, can one assert the beauty of a piece just because you were subjectively moved by it, can art really be reduced to individual tastes etc etc etc??? It's not a question I have managed to answer with prefabricated concepts, but something I think about
continually. So please, no lectures.
And that's the thing: I wasn't talking about a drama being objectively good or bad. I was talking about you insulting others because they thought a drama you find terrible was a "masterpiece". Well. So what? What's your point?
I don't think
Kill Me, Heal Me is a masterpiece, actually I have never thought a drama was a masterpiece, even my favorites -- I find that dramas have much less liberty, diversity and originality than films, and are too dependant on viewership to actually be masterpieces. But that's what I was trying to suggest in my first post, I don't look for the same thing in a drama as in a movie. No I'm no cinema expert, I have not been to "cinema school" as you so kindly suggest, but I have watched a lot, lot of movies from all parts of the world, and some pretty obscure ones. But dramas are real
popular culture, unlike at least half of the movies I watch, and sorry if I come across as elitist, but I judge them as such, with everything that implies. Otherwise I wouldn't be able to enjoy them. There's a pretty popular blog about dramas I love called dramabeans that sums up what I'm trying to say: "
I started this site because I couldn’t find a site providing meaty (or any) analysis for K-dramas, a longtime guilty pleasure of mine. I enjoy marveling at the pretty as much as anyone, but also wanted to express appreciation for quality that didn’t automatically dismiss something for being popular. Or, on the flipside of that same coin, to discuss something popular that went beyond surface discussion of the plot or hot cast. (Although, let’s be honest! Hot cast = a nice bonus.)". Actually, I enjoy the irrationality that surrounds dramas: the impatience while watching a currently airing show, the fangirls that get so enthusiastic they call a drama a "masterpiece"... For me, it's part of the fun. Who cares if it's maybe the wrong word? So what if people get so implicated they get blinded? Really, what's the huge deal? I don't think you have to "disconnect your brain" to watch a drama, there are plenty of ways of using the brain, and they don't all imply logic :p (in fact, believe it or not, I do take logic classes - they're the worst!). Have a little faith in people, there's a 90% chance they use the strictly rational side of their brain for the most part of their day, be it at work, at school, reading good books... and hopefully even while watching a drama too, even if dramas are also
entertainement. Being light and fun and perhaps a little silly occasionally doesn't imply being stupid. You can also have intelligent discussions about dramas, it's what I prefer,
as long as they're not insulting...
Because honestly, who are you to be so condescending?
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One would actually think those are rather obvious facts but it is very obviously not the case and it’s THRILLING. (your comment is dripping of this confusion)"
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But I give you a cookie" (I'm not a baby or a pet or whatever you're implying)
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the question here is if you use it while watching something or disconnect it. Which I assume you didn't in this case, considering you saw “no major plot holes”"
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oh I don’t know you could go to a cinema school, to a writing school, the best places certainly, or even use internet the one with every answers"
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Because yes, sweetheart" (nope)
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yeah, In case it didn’t hit you yet, go to the liking/quality difference section" (yes I'm very thick, things need to HIT me to seep into my brain...)
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Normally, if you got the difference you should see the sense in that sentence, if not well, go reread again, if not…I wonder if logic lessons could potentially be of help at that point."
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New obvious"
Yes, you disagree. For my part, if you didn't insult my intelligence every occasion you get, I would be much more open to what you say. I can be quite malleable, so maybe you would even convince me. But as soon as you attack people, there's a good chance you'll ruin the possibility of any discussion.
That's what I was really answering to the first time, more than
The Heirs and
Kill Me, Heal Me or whatever drama. You constantly imply you are more intelligent than the people that like the drama, than the writers (I supposed the "they" in "
as though they do not have the slightest idea how to use it" meant the writers), than me... Wow, that's a whole lot of people. I don't want to be moralising, but the people I really, really, really admire are people that somehow manage to know a lot of things
without becoming cynical or condescending. There's a lot to be said about being nice and having a healthy sense of humour that doesn't fall into mockery.
I guess this could go on forever, and it would become boring, petty and time-consuming, which it already has started to be. So I won't add anymore oil to the fire in this conversation, nor will I go torture myself "
rewatching EACH episode while connecting it [my poor neglected brain]
now" in order to find the infamous plot holes
ψ`ー´)ﾉ. As I said at first, I (at least temporarily) dropped it, I won't inflict myself a show that bores me to the point of taking it out on other people that are enjoying it.
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What??..I’m afraid I did not understand what point there was supposed to be there". I was answering to this: "
The real plot is the love triangle, a love triangle as classical as possible, wanting itself to be "original" only through a split personality....which isn't even original actually...."
p.p.s: if you really want to continue Kill Me, Heal Me, as I mentioned earlier, dramabeans always has reviews that manage to be smart and funny. Here's the link:
http://www.dramabeans.com/tag/kill-me-heal-me/p.p.p.s: most important of all, as @KiRa said, no hard feelings! At least not from my part and right now, after writing all that
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