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A great comedy turned into a mess

The series starts strong as a lighthearted comedy, but it takes a dramatic turn that undermines its initial charm. The shift into a complex political game lacks the necessary depth and consistency.

The plot suffers from several inconsistencies:

* Plot Holes: Critical plot points are resolved off-screen, leaving viewers confused and unsatisfied.

* Inconsistent Character Behavior: Characters often act irrationally or contradict their established motivations.

* Implausible Power Dynamics: The series oversimplifies complex power struggles, making it difficult to suspend disbelief.

* Deus Ex Machina: Convenient solutions and unexplained events undermine the narrative's tension.

While the first half of the series offers enjoyable humor, the latter half's serious tone is marred by poor execution.

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I didn’t expect to enjoy this drama, but I did. I’m a sucker for friends-to-lovers, with a sprinkling of slow-burn, so I’m as good as dead. 

For starters, I’m rooting for a main character who is not your typical “hot Oppa“ lead, without needing to subscribe to beauty standards in order to be “accepted” by society. I find Tubby Kang so much more adorable before he lost weight because he was truer to himself and less conscious of trying to please others. And his chemistry with the FL before his transformation was palpable.  

Jia Wei and Jing Jing was an accidental pairing that neither could have predicted. They were constantly at each other’s throats, but we all know that all this is just play-fighting and nothing serious. Their banter was so fun to watch, but when push comes to shove, they motivate each other to become better people.  

Throughout the drama, we see both being oblivious, especially in the beginning, and both were also pinning their hopes on other people. To this end, Gao Zhan and the other Jing Jing become receptacles of the MC’s misplaced feelings. Neither memorable for their acting, nor essential to the plot, except perhaps to give platform to the MC’s stories.  

Speaking of the plot, I must say the final episodes did not impress me. It seemed like the writers didn’t know what to do with the material, so they threw a wrench in or two, just to give a conflict that was really petty to begin with. And because of this, these supposedly BFFs became incommunicado for like some years, and you expect me to believe that once they saw each other, all is well in the world? If they wanted to do this prolonged silent treatment as a sub-plot, they must also do a gradual progression on how both came to terms with their feelings, and not just slap a bow with no explanation whatsoever, except for some cringe-inducing finale. This really put a dent on an otherwise good drama.  

 

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RAINNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You and your face card!!!!*soul sigh* I luh you but...

Listen...listen...I LOVEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEee me some Rain...LOVE me some Bi Rain. LOVE him.
However...not even his perfect face card, body, and charismatic allure can make me say that I LOVED this dang haberdashery of a trope-filled to our eyeballs genre action-melodrama-thriller-comedy-romance-Micheal Bay-inspired tomfoolery!!!! NOTHING! I turned this on for pure, PURE support as a day-one Bi-Rain/Rain fan, and sat there slack-jawed and laughing my butt off at the writers playing around with this man and his FL, who both were grasping for whatever meat, potatoes, kimchi, and pantry seasonings of sauce that they could find to keep this hot mess of a written show together. This mess was clearing a check grab for our two popular and strong leads, as well as work/checks for everyone else in it who must have needed it due to recessions and past pandemic woes. LIKE....WTH was I watching!! It hurt my feelings to the bone! I do not recommend UNLESS you want to watch for Rain's deliciousness, and if you want to predict the outcome of the whole show by the time you finish episodes 1-3 thanks to every dang predictable trope that the writing room threw in this show, and then some. Errrmahgawd!

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Surprised this poorly written story was written by women.

This story was written poorly! The first episode alone had multiple plot holes. I made it through 11 episodes and surprised that I did because it was getting worse as the story progressed. The acting was bad, the plot wasn’t very logical and the characters weren’t very interesting.

I’m actually surprised this show was written by women screenwriters because they don’t seem to grasp the basic idea of a woman with a crush; even more, the directors are male but didn’t grasp the concept of how to act like and pretend to be a male. They didn’t even try.

The FL character seemed to have low self worth as she accepted the ML character’s poor treatment of her through out the show and built her whole existence around the ML. The ML wasn’t even remotely like-able and it was hard to understand why she even liked him since she didn’t really know him.

I don’t usually mind the contract marriage tropes but this was one of the worse.

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The Group the World Forgot

Each episode of this drama gives you a glimpse 7 years ago into the people who crossed paths with Lin Rulan and were drawn into her battle as helpless witnesses to her injustice

The experience negatively impacted each of them, with them feeling the brunt of corruption and set them all on a course to gain control of their own lives.

Now 7 years later, after her death, they all return, intent on seeing the justice she couldn’t achieve done on her behalf.

Meng Wan was a force to be reckoned with. A silent and incredibly patient storm.

When we meet her, it’s clear that her temperament is very different from rulan’s. She’s very calm, and quiet. Where Rulan was a free spirit, Meng wan carried the burden of a girl forced to grow up too quickly.

Rulan was her safe space. The bright and shiny girl who pulled her out of her misery, if only momentarily.

But that too was stolen from her as she watched as bit by bit, Wu Lian and their community drained the light from Rulan’s eyes until there was nothing left and so she set off in a course for justice… or vengeance.

Waiting, watching and biding her time.

This was an incredibly heavy story about a woman’s fruitless attempts to gain justice for her rape in a society where a woman’s morality is tied to her “purity” (not unlike our own).

Rulan fought and lost.

Meng Wan fought and won.

But it was clear that this win isn’t because society changed but because they were unable to look away.

She forced the world to see the ugly so that they wouldn’t be able to sweep it under the rug any longer.

It also highlighted different aspects of their society’s impact on the lives of women and how limited they felt their choices were as a result.

From the woman who remains in an abusive marriage to a drunk because she doesn’t know what she’d be in their society without a husband, to the woman who sacrificed others to gain respect and maintain relevance after her husband’s death because without him, she cannot stand on her own and finally the woman who sold her soul to have a place to stand in this world because she believes that the loss of her virginity renders her unclean and underserving of a proper place in this world without the mercy of a man.

It was gripping from start to finish.

Solid writing, no distractions and very few problems.

This was a really good use of episodic storytelling. Every episode served the characters and the plot.

My only issue was how lenient the story was with his accomplices.

They somehow made it seem like he was the only wrongdoer in the end and everyone who assisted him were simply led astray or victims themselves

While it is true that one can be both a victim and a perpetrator, that does NOT mean absolution.

She told the wife that from the beginning to end, nothing was her fault, and I shit you not, bile rose in my throat.

She had fault. She fed him new victims every year. Women who trusted her. Whose families trusted her. Her family and her reputation were his access to a steady supply of these girls and she knew it, knew what was happening and was still complicit.

Madam Ning sacrificed these girls and many other people that Wu Lian harmed in order to maintain her fickle relevance in society and Meng Wan didn’t consider her a villain. She was the reason he was able to get away with his crimes for as long as he was but all we asked of her is that she stop assisting him??

Prefect Chen’s ending also wasn’t all that satisfying.

The only people I could kinda understand were the servants because they aren’t servants but slaves. They didn’t have a choice and even then, I still blame them. Years of helping this man rape the young women in your care, covering up for it and not one of them strayed or attempted to help until it was convenient for them.

He was the bad guy. He was the rapist.

I agree wholeheartedly.

But he didn’t do this alone and pretending that because the women who assisted him in his deviancy were prisoners of their society counts as “time served” is despicable. They are guilty and hateful and should’ve been punished accordingly-or atleast there should’ve been a proper acknowledgment of their guilt and complicity instead of absolution.

I do want to point out an appreciation for the realism of the story as it relates to his victims-their willingness and their hesitancy. As well as how it highlights that rape isn’t always something done through force-sometimes it CAN be that nuanced and not as clear cut but that doesn’t make it any less rape…but this seems like a good place to stop no?

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absolutely disastrous fall-off

*I initially left this review on the main listing, but since I actually watched the uncut version, I've reposted it here.

God, where do I begin. I guess I'll say that at the start, I was enjoying myself. Sure, it was a little contrived and there were always pacing issues from the episode 1 on, but there were enough interesting elements to have me willing to go along. Over the following three months, I then experienced what the proverbial frog being boiled must have felt as around me the waters got hotter and hotter until I was being turned into rancid jelly.

Quick premise recap: Through a series of contrivances, Jack and Joke meet as youths (Joke is somewhere around 20, Jack is 18) and bond. Jack runs into Joke while Joke is robbing a bank, Joke approves a loan for him, then Jack gets accused of participating in the robbery, Joke turns himself in and goes to prison for 5 years while Jack ends up working for a loan shark referred to as Boss. Time skip forward, Jack is out of prison and wants to go apologize and is upset to find out that Jack is no longer the sweet kid he remembers but instead a (seemingly) brutal debt collector. He teams up with two of Jack's friends to steal Jack's parents' ring from Boss, which he's been using as leverage to keep Jack working for him, and free Jack from this life.

Okay. That seems fine, right? Except from there the plot proceeds to introduce more and more elements, getting increasingly out of control as it goes. I should have known it was doomed the moment they introduced The Evil Crime Boss monopoly game in a scene that must have taken a solid 10-15 minutes but felt more like an hour. I doubly should have known when in, like, the next episode they did an almost identical scene but with a digital game of Chutes and Ladders. In case you didn't get it, these rich people see the poor as their playthings. Do I understand what any of these people actually do? Nope!

From there, it just gets more comic book before reaching absurdist heights with a final episode that includes three characters handcuffed to video game consoles with bomb collars on while for some reason they're forced to play hangman in one of the most excruciating sequences of television I've been subjected to. And then it's revealed that all the danger the characters were allegedly in didn't actually matter, because the escalating events of the past three episodes were actually all just the Four Horsemen screwing with Boss. Which thematically, yes, makes sense, but also negated 90% of the character decisions that had come before.

It's hard to describe what a letdown this show was. It started with a promising premise and themes of the cycle of poverty and self-interest versus self-sacrifice, all to abandon that for a poor knock-off of Squid Game. Character arcs are introduced and dropped at the speed of light, interpersonal conflicts that should be a major problem are resolved in a few lines, and plot points that seem incredibly important just disappear into the wind.

Things that were good:
- War is still a great actor and manages to pull genuine pathos out of an insane script.
- Yin and War have the chemistry and heat to convince you of Jack and Joke's attraction even if their romance arc felt pretty anemic towards the end.
- For the most part, it looks great, and the early fight scenes especially are fun.
- Victor, perhaps the only actor who truly understood what genre he was in, chewed the scenery to bits and left no crumbs.
- The first heist involving the fashion show was pretty fun.

Things that were bad:
- Almost everyone was hopelessly incompetent. If you were looking for a fun, slick heist show, this is not it because no one is good at anything, including Joke who is allegedly a master thief even though we are given absolutely no reason to believe this.
- Wildly inconsistent pacing and tone. Perhaps the Saw traps at the end would have felt more fun and camp to me if the first couple episodes hadn't been relatively grounded.
- Character motivations bounced all over the place, especially for the antagonists. We're told in a two line exchange in episode 10 that Boss is actually doing his hostile takeover of the Four Horsemen as revenge for his parents, which is given no further explanation or depth aside from another single line in the finale that has no relevance and is never mentioned again.
- Characters and plot threads were dropped for multiple episodes. Side characters Save and Hope, who have a lot of bearing on the plot as minions for Boss, straight up disappear for like three episodes straight. Tattoo, Arun, and Hoy, who all seem really important at the beginning, also have arcs that are completely dropped.
- People/the show seems to conveniently forget there are guns for long stretches of time, or just forget how basic physics work.
- One of the most poorly executed twists of all time because we have no information about the people involved in said twist. You have time to make Jack bark like a dog for like five solid minutes but can't give us a Mean Girls-style rundown of the Four Horsemen? Please.

I think the most frustrating thing is that there were absolutely seeds of a good, fun show, but it was buried beneath ten layers of nonsense that should have been cut in the first round of edits. Like, not even. It should have been cut at the outline stage and then thrown into a fire never to be contemplated again. I am willing to accept a lot of nonsense in my media, I am able to suspend disbelief, and I have watched a lot of objectively bad television, but this manged to hit my threshhold on everything. Even watching it with friends didn't help; we ended up setting the finale on 2x when we realized there was still half an hour left after watching people mess with an ipad in a cheap-looking warehouse set for an hour. I guess I'm glad other people enjoyed it, because I like Yin and War, but kings, this one should have gone back to the drawing board.

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Best Drama Ever!

I will say right now that this is the best drama I have ever watched. Everything about it is just perfect, every single one of the episodes are amazing, and the cast is the absolute best.

I love Shin Hae-sun, she's so cute in this drama as Woo-Seo-ri. I think she's the best looking actress ever, and her acting skills are just as good too! Honestly, she doesn't even look 30, more like she's in her mid 20's, which is a bit funny in this drama as she gets called ajumma a lot!

The rest of the cast is also amazing. Yang Se-jong as Mr Gong and Ahn Hyo-seop as Chan did an excellent job, both very likeable characters.

One of the reasons I love this drama is because it doesn't make you feel angry at any point, as there are no villains. There is no one you can really hate in this drama, even including the guy who caused the accident in the first place. The whole drama makes you feel good, and the ending will make you happy.

There was also a part in this drama that actually made me laugh out loud. Never before has a drama actually made me laugh before, especially as I was trying to stay quite while watching it!

Usually, there are a few things I can point out that I dislike, but this drama is so good that I can't think of anything I don't like about it! The only thing I will say is that the rewatch value isn't too high, as once everything gets revealed at the end, it isn't as enjoyable to rewatch the whole thing while knowing what's happened already.

Overall, I absolutely recommend Thirty but Seventeen. I chose to watch it because of Shin Hae-sun, and it turned out to be the best drama I have ever watched! It's quick to make you want to keep watching and you won't regret it!

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Sometimes, It's Just Not a Happily Ever After

Well, this is not the “married” you probably were thinking of when you read the synopsis. It is more to me of a woman who finds her place and voice in a marriage that was crushed by her drowning from being controlled by her husband.

We are happily introduced to the married couple of Hu Cheng (Feng Shao Feng) and Ning Yue (Elvira Cai) and their beautiful son, Hu Zi Yuan (Andy).

Ning Yu was an award-winning employee on the Wall of Honor, a senior lawyer, a courtroom champion who rarely lost, and a rising star with a bright future in law. Her life was one written for a powerful career woman. But that was four years ago. Her home life was her new battlefield. She now stayed at home and took care of her husband, Hu Cheng, so he could focus on his work – Yaofeng Technology which he established.

Ning Yu gave up her career at the peak for her family. Did she regret. Not in the least. Not at the time. She felt that this was just a temporary retreat. She now felt she was taking her first steps to returning back to work. Over the past six months she had been offered consultation work with her husband’s support, working as a pro bono lawyer at a nonprofit service center. Her income was not that much, and the cases were trivial matters, but helping so many people in need made her realized she was valued.

Hu Cheng with his partner and confidante Zhou Wei (Victor Huang) were best friends who from college had gone through so much with making Yaofeng Technology a fortune 500 company. Zhou Wei knew all of Hu Cheng’s shortcomings and secrets. He always tried to balance him and counsel him to make sure he understood there is a difference between his family life versus his work life. Nothing or no one should come between that, if only he would have listened.

Cracks Being to Show…
Ning Yu loved her husband and was always easy going towards his every need, but somethings were a bit too much. She was not allowed to drink, focus on just getting pregnant again, because he felt Chinese woman looked good in a cheongsam dress that was all that she was pretty much allowed to wear at any event--so much so, when she had gotten her outfit wet when they were camping out, he brought her one of those dresses instead of jeans and lastly stopping at all cost her having a career again.

This was a poignant moment for Ning Yu when she told Hu Cheng that she was going to take a job offer to leave the pro-bono, nonprofit service center. Oh, that did not sit well with him. He tried various ways to convince her not to take the job until he relented. Or did he.

But as she was closing the deal to leave within a month, Ning Yu was given a case for a wife who wanted to divorce her husband. Her son found out and came to the center and blamed Ning Yu for trying to separate his parents. Not listening to anyone, he went to the second floor of the building and jumps.

This was the downfall of Ning Yu’s restart of her career. Hu Cheng took the opportunity to not only pay off the mother, the hospital bills but to also besmirch her name on the intranet to make sure that she would not get any job. He wanted to put her back in her “place” of being at home.

Meanwhile, Hu Cheng meets Tian Qiu Zi (Jia Nai) who becomes his mistress.

Lies…Lies…Caught
After the incident, Hu Cheng decides Ning Yu needs to get pills for depression. Again, another controlling way to keep her at home. Ning Yu believed that she didn't need any medication, but again to appease her husband she did. Still bothered by the incident at the center, Ning Yu went to confront Hu Cheng after seeing Zhu paying the woman at the hospital whose son jumped from the building, she wanted answers. Her answer was in the form of seeing him walking out of the building and putting Tian Qiu Zi in his car. This was a gut-wrenching moment for her. To see the man, she loves putting another woman in his car, her heart sank, and so did her believing him.

She did talk to him at home, but everything she felt was just more twisted way of him lying.

Knowing now that there is more than meets the eye with everything that Hu Cheng was saying she met up with Mu Xiao (Xing Yu Jing) her lawyer friend who now would become the ally she needed to start the process for a divorce. Ning Yu finds out everything with regards to Hu Cheng’s affair with Tian Qiu Zi and begins putting her plan into motion.

Mu Xiao does hire a man who follows Hu Cheng and gets damaging evidence to solidify Ning Yu's case to divorce him. The catalyst for her reconsidering is their son Hu Zi Yuan. They both love their son but at what cost could she leave her son in the environment with a husband who acted as he did. She did not want him to be this way. Divorce was the answer or would she give him another chance.

Trust One More Time...Short-Lived
After two incidences which we have Hu Zi Yuan being in the hospital for suspected leukemia and Hu Cheng being in a car accident. The car accident, I feel was the turning point for Ning Yu. She truly realized how much she still loved Hu Cheng. He in turned saw the look of desperation and anguish so he felt that he too needed to readjust his attitude and ways. So, with a serious talk, Ning Yu and Hu Cheng put everything out. All transgression, doubts, fears, everything to start fresh once again.

This was a good point of love for them both until we had Hu Cheng bring in his parents, as well as his man. he sent to investigate who had been following him. Only to find out that he worked for Mu Xiao who was a divorce lawyer and friend of Ning Yu. All bets were off. Hu Cheng was now out for revenge. He felt everything she said was betrayal and she really did not want to reconcile.

We get an opportunity to see how Hu Cheng was raised and why in some respects he was the way he was. His father treated his wife not like a wife at all. More like a slave to wait on him hand and foot, literally. The man would just hold out his cup to her and she would go and get the tea. Always washing the dishes instead of using the dishwasher. Cooking, I mean, you get to the point where enough already.

But Ning Yu sees what is happening and quickly puts a stop to this. With the help of her mother, they empower Hu Cheng’s mother to being painting and doing things for herself. Ning Yu hires help in the house to which this young woman sets Hu Cheng’s father straight. So much so that you will see the complete turnaround when you see the expression on Hu Cheng’s face when his father literally puts tea in his mother’s cup. This is where you see the perplex look on his face, not once but twice. When his father actually cooks dinner with the help of his mother.

His father talks to him and explains to him his faults and how he needed to let his mother teach him thinks and trust her in knowing that they will grow better as a couple if he would just treat the relationship as equals. Explaining further to him, that there is nothing wrong with a woman working. All this as you will see is a surprise to Hu Cheng.

During the time Hu Cheng's parents are there, you will feel your blood boiling when you see how the father is. It is so unnerving that you just want to cheer for Ning Yu and how she handles the situation to bring this closure about for everyone. I was happy to see it because I was hot to say the least.

Good Friends Lost...Deception Everywhere
Zhou Wei was always in the corner of Hu Cheng. No matter what his misdeeds, he was always there, never wavering in his dedication to him. But things finally took a turn when he just disappeared. This was where you see the true cracks in the armor of Hu Cheng. He is a man that likes to control every situation but, in this case, it was not meant to be. Zhou Wei had gone into the hospital -- liver cancer advanced stage. Finally, going to see his friend he was so apologetic and crushed to see him like this. He felt loss, remorse, anger, and wanted to help him only to have Zhou Wei blame him for everything that befell him. These were his last heartfelt words that he said to him before he finally passed away.

Zibo his nephew justified to his uncle, Hu Cheng his attempt to take out Mu Xiao. He thought that is what he wanted him to do.

And lastly, the woman that he deceived in his hometown who he stashed his money and property, took everything from him and fled. The day of Zhou Wei wake, the police came and arrested him for embezzlement.

Breaking Free
Ning Yu created an elaborate way to once and for all to break free from the grasp of Hu Chang. Her friend Qin Can (Xing Zhao Lin) who worked with her previously was an advocate who helped her as well as Luo Ya Ting (Sophia Hu) ex-wife of Hu Cheng. She made a clause in her contract, once she was able to work, for the company to sue her and mortgage her house should she choose to leave before her contract. Hu Cheng made her leave. Once Ning Yu showed him the contract, she knew he would fight her. This caused an all-out fight in the conference room. Knowing how to push his buttons, Ning Yu forced Hu Cheng to shove her putting her through the glass. This caused him to be arrested and put into detention. Allowing Ning Yu to file for divorce.

Freedom
Ning Yu planned well. She had her home established along with her mother. Hu Zi Yuan was becoming adjust to his new surroundings and loss of his father, since he was charged with embezzlement. Ning Yu took over Yaofeng Technology. Rises it from the ashes.

After serving his time, you will see a changed Hu Cheng. No longer is he a driven man for profit but a self-reflecting man on the loss of his family. You feel and see that he is a man that doesn't know which way to go. But you still have Tian Qiu Zu still pushing him to go back to his former self of running Yaofeng Technology. She feels that she has won her battle with Ning Yu only to have Hu Cheng come to the shareholders meeting and give over all his shares to Ning Yu, crushing Tian Qiu Zu. He gives his final blow to separate once and for all for Tian Qiu Zu by giving her all of his savings and breaking free from her,

I have to digress and say Hu Zi Yuan is such an outstanding young talent. His scene when Ning Yu takes him from Hu Cheng is the most heartbreaking moment to hear him cry. Hearing the words to Ning Yu asking why his father doesn't come to see him anymore, will make you feel like you just want to hug this boy. He is amazing throughout this drama.

New Beginnings....
We finally see that Hu Cheng gets his life together and begins working at another company once again. There is a good relationship with his son and Ning Yu. And it looks like there will be a budding relationship between her and Qin Can.

I have to say this was a drama that makes you go through so many emotions and makes you think about marriage. You see how it starts out so well but just falters because of several reasons because there is not just one. Not all marriages are like this, if only...well, one can only hope that all are not this way.

I definitely did enjoy this and the performances by the leads was exceptional as was all the cast.

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Don't take any notice of the Haters who think their opinion is important

This is a worthwhile Drama. Although I have only watched 6 Episodes I am enjoying it. The Male lead is a brilliant actor. I never begin a Review unless I have watched the whole drama but seeing the first destructive attempt at a 'Review' I am moved to say Stop! Korean Actors are vulnerable to self harm because netizens are so life denying, depressed, jealous and unhappy they want to share their misery and it often lands on the actors or their dramas. Korea has a huge Suicide problem. Adding your negative, selfish opinion adds to the probem. Shame on you the peson who left the hideous Review. Who do you realy want to hit in your life?

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Quite disappointed with the storyline.

It's a nice drama to watch, with great acting from Chang Wook and Hye Sun, but the storyline was quite weak. I liked the concept of healing in one's hometown, with the support of loved ones. I especially loved how Yong Pil was trying to win her over; that was cute. On the other hand, I hated his father, as his character was purely defined by hate and stubbornness, which destroyed his son's relationship. I find it ridiculous how suddenly he changed.

I had a hard time staying focused, especially in the middle of the drama, as some parts were boring. I thought the screenwriting could have been better, and perhaps fewer episodes would have helped.

I had such high hopes, as people were comparing it to *Hometown Cha-Cha-Cha*, which I love, but it is not on the same level.

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wasted potential

high school romance, forced proximity, enemies to lovers, he falls first, love triangle..

this drama had so much potential and i was so excited about it, but it turned out so badly.

first things first, the production was really bad. the acting wasn't good, the way it was filmed wasn't either, the ost always came up so randomly and sometimes didn’t even fit the mood.. everything felt so flat, rushed and forced/unatural.

it's only 8 episodes of around 20 minutes too, which obviously doesn't help since it was so short and therefore lacked many things.

an example would be that NONE of the characters has an actual backstory. not even the mcs. it's impossible to get attached to them because we literally don't know anything. the drama mostly takes place at school & in the their rooms, we don't even know who they live with or what their daily life is like..

this deserved a better production & proper episodes lengths to explore the plot, characters, their stories & personalities, their relationships.. so many things.

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