TharnType Season 2: 7 Years of Love (2020)

Not a bad sequel!

Story / Plot and Cast: The story has been a continuation from season 1, simply titled TharnType the Series. With the series putting the incidents 7 years after the first season, it is inevitable to look at the projected changes. In general, timing, ages, growth of characters, and communication style are all consistent. The “couples” have, in general, adequate screen time, but they are discussed later. The plot is general and basic (of course!), with only minor twists from the normal storyline. The last part about ordination was really culturally embedded, and occasionally left me in a grin. But, hey, it’s meant to be serious! Let’s talk about the “couples”, shall we:

Tharn and Type: They have significantly improved communication in this series! (Not sure if that is, in fact, common in couples together for seven years.) Communication problems have been severe in season 1, and all that was distressing and aggravating. They weren’t free of communication problems, but certainly less aggravating and face-palming as last time. They have trust issues (again not sure if that is frequent in reality!) but are able to resolve them in the end. More sweet scenes this time, and I’m for it, even though I wasn’t particularly into them. Type was significantly less hot-headed than season 1, improved for so much that he let Fiat infiltrate into his own relationship (!). We need no more elaboration on Mew (Tharn) and Gulf (Type) because we all know they have been doing an excellent job in portraying the respective characters.

Leo and Fiat: It is good that they were together at the end, even though one may question the intention of Fiat of the sabotaging he did to Type and Tharn. I cannot feel the feeling of Fiat to Leo, despite their intimate behaviour (they slept together!). It is well possible that Fiat (or Leo? or both?) treated that as a brotherly relationship (also known as “Phi-Nong” relationship, exclusively for Thai). There is mixed feelings for Fiat because his experience seems really sad, but such could never justify his sabotage. In the end, whether Fiat stays true to Leo is, regrettably, not so observable from the acting. Ja (Leo) was eye-catching and First (Fiat) adequately gave Fiat the character a complex personality. Ja was also involved in Until We Meet Again, and it is refreshing to see him with a new look!

Champ and Khunpol: Despite a reduction in dangling “couples”, one still remain, and this is Champ and Khunpol. Champ was oblivious, but Khunpol wasn’t obvious either. Champ has not a single idea on Khunpol liking him, and this is occasionally aggravating. Khunpol was apparently a shy boy and has held feelings for Champ for seven years (!), coincidentally (or not?) resonating with the series title. (I have to say that, when Type was bullied by his senior right after Khunpol’s feeling was spotted by Type, I held negative feelings for Khunpol. The music might have also contributed to my faulty perception. The show eventually clarified that Khunpol was crucial in dealing with Type’s senior, but that was another story.) Boat (Champ) has made it to season 2, and Jame (Khunpol) is also refreshing.

Cirrus and Phugun: If the two were already a couple, is the problem of dangling “couples” dissolved? [I wonder.] They were linked to the plot by Phugun, where he is a little brother of Tharn, proving again Tharn really has a lot of non-biological relationships (!). Phugun was a warm and helpful person, and whenever he appears the scene is guaranteed to be warm. Cirrus seems to be an over-protective boyfriend, but later he has proved to us that the over-protection was necessary. Cirrus also has the softer side when he talked with Tharn in Tharn’s room. There was little room for character development, but it’s all we have here. Haii (Cirrus) and Title (Phugun) was cute! All in all, I am looking forward to their next roles, be it together or not.

Music: The soundtracks did not particularly attract me. The main track, ข้างเธอ by Off Chainon, was a nice song. What the song gave me is a feeling of grand, beautifully decorated hall which is just made for a nice wedding, which is perfect for the theme of the series. The ending theme, เธอ... ที่เดินเข้ามา by Nuengthida Sophon was lovey-dovey, and did not really attract me. Other songs were mostly the extension of the frequent melodies which appeared in the series intermittently, and may worth your time listening.

To conclude, I would rate the show as mediocre to good. Improved communication and a fairly interesting plot is the good side, but screen time imbalance may be detrimental. As a sequel that is based on the success of season 1, it is not a bad show to watch.

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It was good. But... Way more fanservice.

Not nearly as compelling a story as season 1. In season one, stuff was ROUGH. But it made sense. Not everything in season 2 did.

There is a trend I've noticed in Bl dramas. Whoever the "problem child" of the main couple is in season 1, is the one who is in the right in season 2. And this trend follows here, but admittedly with a bit better (read more complex) reasoning behind it. Even so, it's an annoying trend because they usually devolve the character, who is otherwise normally a at least somewhat sensible or upstanding a character in order to accomplish it. No exception this time on that count.

The acting between the main characters is still VERY solid. And their more dramatic performances are balanced by some really cool, soft, romance between Tharn and Type. And overall their relationship is a lot more stable, as you might expect it to be after several years.

And Tharn and Type are bracketed by some wonderful and funny support characters. Especially Mild. He was hilarious from start to stop. I nearly fell out of my seat at his "Oh no, here we go again." shtick regarding Type's tendency to live up to that old adage "When the going gets tough the tough go deep cover CIA levels of clandestine entrapment".

Which leads right into one of my pet peeves in many genres of TV or movies but especially BL's. The lack of holding the "problem instigator" responsible for his/her actions in any meaningful way. In season 2, there are several "bad guys". But the main villain who sows dissent gets his own happy ending because even though Fiat caused enormous pain through selfish, clearly immoral (verging on illegal) actions, he's seen as too young to be held accountable. The real reason is Fiat's bound for his own spin off. So fuck that. Nope. Sorry. He was an adult, and was doing adult manipulation and asshattery. He should have faced some adult consequences.

All the same, it was nice to see the whole gang together again, even if I did feel the drama in season 2 hinged on devolving Tharn's character in order to shoe-horn certain aspects of the plot.

On a technical side? The settings were more artsy and dramatic and the sex scenes even more "adult". It was clearly fanservice. Which, how you view that will depend on how you feel about fanservice to begin with. I am not always a supporter of it. I'd often rather just have a decent story.

Type's problem with his boss and said boss' workplace misdeeds was a nice side story that introduced it's own stresses for Tharn and Type's relationship and THIS was the well done part because this felt like mature relationship stresses to me. This felt like the better, more them, story.

The actress who played aged up Thanya was brilliant and lovely, and she brought a delightful feminine savvy to the plot. But the character of Thorn was a bit odd this time around. I think his behavior was written to be reflexive sibling protectiveness but came across as "nope! Tharn you aren't going through this shit again! You are my child and I will protect you." Seriously, weirdly Tiger-mom Thorn! And haha! Thanya's character was all like "Thorn, honey, sweetie. Shut up and let me handle this".

Then came Type's family scenes. I was left wondering how the very smart Type came from such an idiot sire. But that's part of the fun of Type's family, I suppose. Also, Buddhism for the win! Gulf was so weirdly cute at temple.

In the end, watch it just to see more of the characters you love. Do NOT watch it because you need more of Season 1 Tharn handling Type's ups and downs with the patience of a saint. This is, in its own way, as bumpy a ride as season 1 it just feels like they actually covered less ground because it was, over all, very out of character of Tharn. And that's probably my biggest complaint about it.

But, that being said, it did lead them straight into their special EP that was their wedding.

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Saved By Second Couples

STORY:
After the disaster that was TharnType I was hesitant to watch season 2 due to the toxic nature of Tharn and Type's relationship. The saving grace of the story are the two secondary couples Leo/Fiat and Champ/Dr. Khunpol.

The story is pretty basic it takes place 7 years after TharnType where Tharn is now working as a producer and Type is doing is medical residency at a hospital. The only difference is this time instead of Tharn's ex coming into play we get Fiat who is a college kid who falls in love with Type and tries to steal him away from Tharn. I will get more into that below when I talk about Leo/Fiat's relationship.
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ACTING/CAST
Mew as Tharn - Oh Tharn how in 7 years have you shown no interest in growing as a person. Tharn is still a horny adult who constantly wants to have sex with Type. I feel like this show would have made more sense if it was directly after college but to move on 7 years and you are still acting like a 19 year old made me cringe.

Gulf as Type - Thank goodness Type showed a bit of growth from the first season. He's no longer as homophobic as he was before but he's still an idiot with a God Complex. He is selfish and only thinks about himself and his needs throwing what Tharn wants out the window. I wonder sometimes if Type really loves Tharn or if he's with him becuase Tharn is rich.

First as Fiat - This was the first show I saw First in and I have to say he has a great future ahead of him. I am writing this with a bit of a biased opinion because I've already seen Don't Say No and while you are supposed to hate Fiat in this show I urge you to keep and open mind and watch Don't Say No before you form an opinion on him. His backstory is tragic and I'm so happy it is fully explained in their own drama.

Ja Phachara as Leo - Leo on the other hand is more of a side character in this show. He's there more as a friend than lover for half the show but trust me when I say once he and Fiat get their shit together it's so worth it.

Boat as Champ - Our dumb jock from season 1 got his own story line finally. I wish it was more flushed out though. I was more invested in Champ as the show went on because you watched as someone who only cared about themselves learned to see others as well.

Jame as Dr. Khunpol - At first I was confused about this one...I wasn't sure what his purpose was. I think if had been introduced in season 1 with his crush on Champ his character would have made more sense in season 2.
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RELATIONSHIPS
Tharn x Type - A toxic relationship is still a toxic relationship. These two need some therapy. Tharn is all about getting married not understanding or appreciating his partners opinions on the matter. Not everyone wants to get married. Type on the other hand is still so far in the closet that he can't find his way out. He treats Tharn like someone who is disposable to him.

Leo x Fiat - The relationship between these two is magic. They have everything, chemistry, tragic backstory, love and drama. Leo is supportive of Fiat (to a point) but helps to guide his best friend in the right direction. Many people complain that there relationship progression seems sudden in this show and that is because it is. To get their full story please watch Don't Say No its well wroth it.

Champ x Doc - They were a cute couple. I wish they had more scenes and that Doc had been in season 1 so we could have seen some character growth between these two.
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REWATCH VALUE

To be honest before I found Don't Say No I would watch this a few times only for Leo and Fiat's relationships. However, now I avoid this like the plague.
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better than the first series, but still has its own flaws

Some of these reviews are cwazy like did we watch the same show?

like yeah marriage is a recurring theme but some of y'all are making it seem like that's all tharn was talking about in every episode when, and this is true, it wasn't. it came up in the beginning and then took a back seat until the end of the show and that is perfectly okay. additionally, even though Tharn was upset that Type didn't want to get married, he never pushed it so hard (as some other reviewers claim) and in the end Type decided to do it of his own free will. so idk why everyone has their panties in a bunch about this.

i also saw someone say that Type ended up getting jealous at a picture of Tharn and a girl but he wasn't?? he literally stated that he knew Tharn wouldn't cheat on him (with her) and then that plotline just fizzled out, which i am happy about. really the reason he went and spoke with her was because he wasn't sure if Tharn would have had the guts to tell her no directly so he just did it himself. not saying it was the wisest move to do without his partner's consent, but who cares because neither of them ended up being mad about it in the end lol.

anyway, this series was leagues better than the first in my opinion, if only because it toned down some of the unnecessary miscommunication and drama between the main 2 (not saying there wasn't any of that, but it was a lot less than the first series in my humble onion). honestly even with the inclusion of fiat and leo (whose relationship i really did not care for and skipped most of their scenes together lmao) i still thought the drama levels were toned down a bit, save for Techno inserting himself into places where he most certainly doesn't belong but that's why we love him right? *rim shot* ALSO i'm actually kind of irritated that, yes, Champ really is that dense and that he Friendzoned the good doctor so many times and STILL their relationship was left up in the air at the end of it all smh.

i liked Type a lot more this time around considering he was indeed less hot headed than before. i thought he remained calm and collected a good majority of the time and you know what props to him. admittedly the whole fiat issue made me mad but i guess where else were we going to get that juicy tharntype drama(tm) that we are used to seeing by now? i will say the whole monk thing threw me for a loop but it was nice to see those aspects of Thai culture being visited in a series like this.

overall i would say this series is pretty well balanced with drama, fluff and a good sprinkling of sexy times. it's a good send off for the couple and while it did have some frustrating moments (which u should come to expect with a tharntype show) i enjoyed it a lot more than i expected. i would say it's a good show to re-watch when you just miss these two specifically and want more of them being a loving couple than being in fights (i.e. re-watch this one rather than the first series)

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Good to watch

Tharn type bond is really fantastic, the main leads did it well. Other than tharn type I didn't like other pairs. That's why I will talk about tharn type characters itself. The possesiveness of them is really charming one mainly type's. They are too dependent and lovely pairs than others. Seven years of togetherness worked exactly as we expected.
In reality, relations are not that much stronger as we expect, when we came to see such a relation in dramas it makes us happy. I really got such a feelings by watching this series and wishes to watch such a pair in real life too.
Type's and tharn's characters are really different, one is arrogant and another one is smooth, one is cheesy and another one is unromantic, but they are perfect for each other.

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I think reading the reviews before watching greatly impacted my enjoyment of this season Most of the reviews I read were negative, so I had really low expectations and honestly it was better than I thought it was going to be. But I do think I would have been greatly disappointed if I would have gone into this with normal expectations so I don't know how accurate my own review really is to be honest.

The biggest thing. I loved about season 1 was essentially absent in season 2. Last season, there was so much content where Tharn and Type basically just couldn't keep their hands to themselves, and I really really loved that. But they spent a lot of this season apart for one reason or another, and it didn't leave a lot of room for them to have cute moments together like I was hoping to see more of.

As far as the plot goes, I absolutely find it believable that Tharn and Type would have these kind of problems, but I don't know that it's believable it would happen after being together for 7 years. And while I enjoyed the angst those problems brought along, I don't feel like the problems were handled properly. They kind of just get glossed over when I think there should have been a bigger conversation between the two. And while there were a couple scenes I'm sure I'll want to revisit, I can't see myself rewatching the whole season ever again (unlike season 1 that I've already rewatched a few episodes of).

Despite all those complaints, I did enjoy watching this season. It was just much different than what I thought it was going to be.

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Better than season 1 in a few aspects, except there’s no plot

I find it hard to review and evaluate this series, because, if in one hand it did not drive me crazy like Tharntype, on the other it’s almost clickbait to call it Tharntype 2. Yes, we get Tharn and Type together, but it’s not like they really had something to do for most of the show, specially Tharn. This show almost feels like a series made just to introduce new couples that can get their own series later on, like it happened with LeoFiat and Don’t Say No.

I think it’s VERY unlikely that Than and Type haven’t fought because of jealousy over their years between the Season 1 Special and Season 2. But the fact that both of them jump to “he’s cheating” in a heartbeat show that there’re older but not necessarily more mature. I expected this a bit more from Type, if I’m being honest. But this is a BL season 2, so it’s obvious that the one messing up would be the “good guy” from the original season (see TWM 2 and IPYTM).

It’s interesting because when Type saw Tharn kissing two of his exes it was as if he was being unreasonable for getting furious. But when Tharn see’s Type kissing and then pushing someone they’ve known had a crush on Type, it’s a huge problem and there’s definitely cheating. Yes, there were a few weird things (the pics, the pen, the kissing), but Tharn really did not trust Type not did he wait to hear the explanation. I also don’t think Tharn’s apology was sufficient. He half apologized half blamed Type for letting his guard down and getting kissed. Are we blaming the victim for being harassed and stalked now?!

I liked Khunpol and older Thanya because both had things to do and helped the TharnType plot. No was a bit same note throughout the season, but he’s the comic relief, so I didn’t expect more. Thorn is there just to get married and create the marriage conflict between TharnType and Klui serves not purpose at all. Champ unfortunately was a let down for me, since he was one of my favorites in season 1, but so dull here.

I didn’t love any of the side characters, but if I had to choose a favorite it would be Phu and Cirrus. Phu annoyed me a bit at first, since his the classic stereotype of the Disney pjs wearing BL character. I expected a bit more development on the Doc and No story, but they were cute together. LeoFiat has potential, since they got their own series, but I didn’t particularly like or root for them.

Overall, this was a WAY less problematic season, but the story was lacking essence.

PS: The special makeup for monk Type looked really bad.

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Episodic Review

Don't ask me why I'm putting myself through another season of this show because I don't know either.

Ep 1: 8/10, pretty good start for Tharntype. I have no idea who the random highschoolers are (correction after watching ep 2: they're college guys actually)
Ep 2: 8/10, TECHNO HAS A MAN?!?! Techno, the straightest straight guy in that group, has a man?! Σ (ﾟ□ﾟ) I cannot believe, they can't just drop this bomb on me and dip, I need to know who!!!
Also am I the only one who feels the introductions of the side couples is awkward in this show? It's like they jump to the couple first, then do the introductions after. Half the time I don't even know who I'm watching and it's really confusing
Ep 3: 5/10, Fiat is absolutely insufferable. I also don't like how this show creates conflicts out of thin air like that misunderstanding scene was so unnecessary and could've easily been prevented
Ep 4: 7/10 I truly cannot stand Fiat, don't know what Leo sees in him. Also, does anyone else think Fiat has an uncanny resemblance with NCT's Mark? Every time he comes up I just see Mark so that's his only saving grace lol
I still love Techno!! We need to know who his partner is, why're they keeping us in the dark T^T
I love Doc x Champ, healthiest relationship in the show, but the secondhand embarrassment is so real with doc >~<
Ep 5: 8/10 Tankhun is iconic in whatever series he's in
I might just have to take the most wholesome relationship title from Champxdoc to CirxPhugun they're so lovable T^T
Ep 6: 7/10 With each episode I somehow dislike Fiat even more, Leo deserves so much better
Ep 7: 8/10, Techno is so obnoxious and annoying but I still love him lol
Ep 8: 9/10 That scene with Type feeling for the baby's kick is the most precious thing oml made my whole day T^T That was so important, thank you for your service <3
I'm so disappointed that Leo enables Fiat :( :/
Ep 9: 7/10, Fiat is bad but Leo is no better tbh, they're both terrible and deserve each other. How could they abandon Type in that situation?! So irresponsible and selfish ong
Ep 10: 2/10, Fiat's character is absolutely maddening and Leo is just as bad. I don't blame him for having feeling for Type, no one can control their emotions. But what he can control is whether or not he acts on those feelings, and he made the choice to be a homewrecker and terrible person. I will never pity him even if everyone in the show does.
If only they invested the screen time they wasted on LeoxFiat on actually worthwhile & healthy couples like CirxPhugun and ChampxKhunpol instead :( Would've been so much better. I will unapologetically skip every scene that focuses on LeoxFiat lol
Ep 11: 6/10, Tharn & Type teaming up to make fun of Type's dad was the highlight of this episode xD
Ep 12: 9/10, Not them using Thanya as a strategy to gaslight Type's father into accepting Tharn XD Genius plan tbh
I never thought I'd witness monkhood in a bl but I'm here for it
Type in the beanie was so cute T^T
I love that Thorn's story also gets appreciation, one thing I appreciate about this series is that the side characters have actual importance <3 Congrats Thorn you deserve it!!

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Sequells and Explaining

I think this was a good series and for the people complaining the lack of Leos and Fiats story and backround showed here its because they were going to get a sequell called "the secret love" and "dont say no (DSN)" i personally love that so many series are connected here and have their own sequell.
People complaining about TharnTypes relationship and lack of matureness is kinda correct. Types character is a person who boils easily, but remember how he snapped at everyone at s1 and it was well done for him to endure the work. Tharn is good at his work and doesnt have much problems with work. Tharn sulks a little more than needed but gives up after Type talks some sense into him. While i agree that the first 9 episodes were pretty much empty i still enjoyed it. Even after 7 years relationships can have ups and down and tharntypes is really a rollercoaster of emotions. CirPhu couple is the most cringy, Cir gets upset and sulks too much but the gives up after Phu uses some of his "cuteness". Champ and Khunpols story needs a sequell!

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Cute moments of grown up TT

If you ignore the flaming pile of hot mess that was Leo and Fiat, the first 10 episodes of this show are good. I still dont know why they chose to pretend seven years had passed, it would have been the exact same story if it was their first year out of college, but whatever. The job problems and non-school settings mixed with coming home and cuddling with each other for ten episodes was adorable.

Then the end just... was weird. The monk thing came completely out of nowhere. Then I was so looking forward to their post-monk reunion but it was a giant flop. Thorn met Tharn and gave him a hint that Type was back early, so I was all excited that Type was going to propose back with all of Tharn's family there and it would be this huge surprise... but then he was just standing there. In the kitchen. And was all, "why are you so surprised I'm here???" Because you came back a week early?! Why did you even bother? Why did Thorn know bit not Tharn? What was the point?

The Champ and Doc side plot was cute, but Techno was robbed of having a romantic relationship with someone. Anyone. I would have loved that. But Champ is an Aro/Ace king and it would have been cute to see him explain more than just standing there like a dummy when Doc confessed.

I completely forgot that the cousin and his boyfriend across the hall were in the show. They were boring and a little creepy. Maybe don't wear children's pajamas while having sex?

And what about Klui and Seo?? They were there for a second and then very much gone. Imagine if there was no Leo and Fiat, cousin and boyfriend, and instead we had ChampDoc, TechnoAnyone and a more developed KluiSeo side story. That would be so much better.

Also, this comoetely doesn’t matter but I hate Tharn's hair in season one, but liked Type's. And I hated Type's hair in season two, but liked Tharn's. Seriously, though, what was Type's hair doing this entire season? It never moved. It was so weirdly voluminous. It looked like he was hiding a bowling ball in it.

That's it. That's the review.

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Let's start from season one. I have come across an abundance of comments saying that their relationship was very toxic. How does it feel for a man, who liked women for his whole life to generate feelings for another man? On the one hand Type really cared about what people would think of him if they knew about it, but on the other hand he couldn't hide his feelings anymore, especially when he tried to hook up with a woman and understood that it was already impossible for him to get Tharn out of his head. When their relationship started he became very possessive of Tharn, and I think that it would be the same way if his partner was not a man, cause that ownership syndrome was in his blood...The only way out was just going public and letting everybody know that Tharn was taken but he was not ready for it. I think, that he needed time for it, although we come across the same thing in the second season. But the case was different.

We can notice his character development especially when he punches Tharn's ex and tells him that Tharn is HIS man. And in the last episode when he holds Tharns hand in public. Imagine yourself being a man with the conviction that you hate gays and experiencing feelings for a man, who doesn't see anything bad in introducing his lover to his family, going public and living together as a normal couple. Tharn gave time to Type and he realized how intricate it was.

I have seen comments about Tharn being addicted to sex and that was the only thing he cared about...I don't think so. I can't forget the scene when he told Type to eat..."I don't care if you hate me or not, just eat"...He was not careless. I consider it not as an addiction, but a love language. It's just my opinion, I loved the series.

Btw, there are plenty of contradictions in my head concerning the second season. They have been together for 7 years. Type still doesn't want to go public, although their close friends know about them, meanwhile Tharn already thinks about marriage. But we can notice some real changes in Types atitude. In the first season when he knew about his best friend being gay he was confused and couldn't admit it, but now (to be honest, it was really unexpectable to see all of them being gay, in all of a sudden No has got a boyfriend!). Type is a hair-trigger and hot-headed by nature, but he is trying to cope with his anger issues. He contends with them every time his shit-head superior taunts him for no reason at all (I don't think that he was so in love with the nurse though, it was personal, he didn't like Type). The thing is that some of us really like talking out on our beloved ones, and thats what happened to Type (don't tell me you havnen't done that). These things don't strike me as plot holes, I see them as parts of our lives, cause that's what happens when you're overwhelmed and have no time for simmering down. He didn't want to bother Tharn with his problems seeing him being happy with his friends and was looking for someone to talk to. But deep down he wanted Tharn to be that one, because he was the closest to him. He didn't want to upset Tharn with his problems, and it's important to understand that our parntners are not there only when we are happy. Sorrow and anxiety are also to be shared with them.

Some of the commentators say, that Tharn insisted on getting marriend iexorably, but I saw him doing that 2 times only. I pity him, because he noticed the hardships Type was going through and tried to hold himself back and the story with that repulsive girl pestering Tharn, then Fiat who thought that if they were not married so he could make Type want him...Everything was for Type to realize the importance of marriage, and I don't think that Tharn made him agree by being so relentless. I reckon that he came to that conclusion himself.

About the side couples...They were not irrelevant to me. Cin and Phu were the ones who looked up to TharnType, Fiat and Leo were getting on my nerves in the begining, but now I am determined to watch "Don't say no" which is about them. Also, after Champ rejected one of his friends in the first season, I really wondered what would happen to him, so his storyline with Doc was really germane.

The lack of communication and mistrust between the couple was unbearable to me: the latter resulted in the former. They are the most common hindrances that can stand on our way, and fortunately they found the way to deal with it and didn't give up on their love. And what really got me is Type saying "it's only 7 years", while other people kept saying that 7 years are really a lot. He had not had enough of Tharn and I don't think he ever will.

The series is worth watching to understand the nature of impediments that may appear on our ways in adulthood. 8.5/10 for the cringy moments I had to go through, haha.

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